Euro 2024 thread
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I bet he's had a couple of bottles chucked at his good self n'all.
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Well that was boring. It was hardly a reusable rocket touch down.
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What's your view on the Dutch fans behaviour?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No doubt the Muskrat will be online soon calling them all paedos.
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France are starting to have that slight air of a great team in decline. At 32, Griezmann not quite the force he was, understandably given he is the wrong side of 30.
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Stevo, I had a terrible night last night. I just couldn't get the Dutch fans awful behaviour off my mind.
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Throwing drinks bottles at your opposition, awful behaviour!
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Don't worry FZ, they've hired Dr. Evil to tell them they can't do that any more.
Surprised this clip hasn't been used before now in Cake Stop 😀
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]2 -
This is more apt.
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Not had the pleasure of experiencing VAR much but that lukaku disallowed goal (the most recent one…) is a ridiculous.
Get rid of VAR
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Yeah, as a neutral I don't really care if the player may or may not have been an inch offside. The whole excitement of the game is seeing goals, and that is spoiled when they are continually getting ruled out.
Then again, fans and managers have relentlessly whinged about referees for as long as I can remember so I suppose it's a case of be careful what you wish for.
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Only my opinion but VAR isn't the issue, the implementation of VAR in football is.
Simple tweaks to how (who?) it's used would improve the situation enormously.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Absolutely.
With the disallowed Dutch goal, why is the referee not in front of the screen talking it through with the VAR team. That's the fundamental issue the game has with implementation of VAR - taking the on pitch ref out of the equation when the decision become subjective.
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The Netherlands one was given off side on the pitch, so what did VAR have to decide in that instance? The ref and linesman obviously thought he was interfering with play.
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Lukaku one is ridiculous though. There's no way the technology is accurate enough to decide that.
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He was offside.
The objection is that you don't want that close a decision to chalk off a goal.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
This was an interesting decision to me.
In a world without VAR there'd have been a minor talking point at half time but no controversy
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In no normal way was he off-side. The Dutch goal I can forgive, that’s interpretation. This is just ludicrous however.
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Normal way is just another way of saying he was offside, but you don't want him to be.
I can understand that.
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Nah. He is level with the defender. He just is. In any normal world he is level, just not in var world.
If I stood next to someone like Lukaku was and I asked anyone if I was level they’d say of course.
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You can clearly see it was offside from this angle.
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I'm not convinced that there is enough detail to say that he was definitely offside. The computer calculates according to the images provided that he was, but things happen between frames, and it is showing an image with spurious accuracy. Maybe that's as accurate as you can get, but i agree there should be a similar concept to the umpires call where it is that close.
Umpire's call also applies to whether the ball has struck outside the line of the stumps in cricket, so it isn't just for predicted ball tracking.
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It just needs an equivalent of umpires call. When it is so close it gets lost to pixel count or falls between frames then you stick with the on field decision. It also puts some onus back of the officials on the pitch instead of them ignoring things in the hope that VAR will make the call for them which seems to be becoming more common.
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Lukaku was offside - ok maybe the technology has a margin of error but it's more accurate than the naked eye and the error could be either way. I know Wenger has been pushing for changing offside so it requires more than a toenail but these aren't really arguments against var - whatever offside is surely it's better it's judged as accurately as we are reasonably able to.
For the Dutch goal he's standing where the keeper would dive - it's at the very least a reasonable call to rule it out.
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I think I'd get rid of it for offside, I don't think millimeter accuracy adds anything to the game. Not sure about fouls in the build up particularly in the mele around free kicks.
Keep it for ball over the line and possibly for serious foul play that's been missed.
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I'd suggest that if it's within any margin of error, it's not a clear and obvious error by the on field officials.
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The problem with the idea of "clear and obvious" is that it brings subjectivity into it. As I posted upthread everything needs to be defined and that could include the equivalent of umpire's call.
That doesn't help fouls where there is currently a wide range of incidents that can be both penalties and not penalties at the same time. This is fine for removing VAR incidents, but is imprecise and unsatisfactory.
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What a dull game between 2 sides that have to win. Do they not know that the idea is to try to score a goal?
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Scotland are passing and pressing better than England, but I think they could play until tomorrow lunchtime and still not score.
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Yes Scotland need to start getting players in the box when they attack.
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