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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,123
    edited November 2023
    stage_hunter said:



    He said neither of those things. I’d be very interested in your explanation as to how you deduced that from the podcast. You know, the actual words used.

    I didn't deduce anything, that is what was widely reported across the Interwebs as Daniel Friebe complains above.
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  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,495
    That's not how I heard it listening this morning. Seemed like he was keen to not become stuck in 1 place to me rather than not feeling wanted.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Yer, he's basically at the decision point where he becomes a Gee or Luke and stays there for ever or tries elsewhere.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 317
    davidof said:

    stage_hunter said:



    He said neither of those things. I’d be very interested in your explanation as to how you deduced that from the podcast. You know, the actual words used.

    I didn't deduce anything, that is what was widely reported across the Interwebs as Daniel Friebe complains above.
    Your post heavily implied you had listened to the podcast.

    You only cited the podcast, not whatever piece of **** lied about the contents.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,123
    edited November 2023
    stage_hunter said:



    Your post heavily implied you had listened to the podcast.

    You only cited the podcast, not whatever piece of **** lied about the contents.

    Look, I'm sorry okay but it is really just a detail. I don't think anyone "lied" about the contents, just something got mis reported. The main point for me was he realized at 28 it was now or never and he's moved to a team where he has a clear GC goal.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    If a bunch of genuine media outlets c*cked up, I think we can lay off Davidof...
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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 317
    ddraver said:

    If a bunch of genuine media outlets c*cked up, I think we can lay off Davidof...

    I would suggest that they do not appear to be genuine.

    And yes, if your listened to the podcast with TGH and reported what has been reported you are either 1- a liar, or 2- incompetent

    Those comments are not aimed at davidof.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    ddraver said:

    If a bunch of genuine media outlets c*cked up, I think we can lay off Davidof...

    Yeah, but where's the fun in that? I vote that from now on we hold @davidof responsible for all misquotes, mistranslations, quotes taken out of context and clickbait headlines that the media throw at us.

    Something like:
    Clickbait site: POGACAR ADMITS HE'S A FASCIST!
    Pogacar: I said I'm really into FASHION:
    Us: Bloody davidof, calling Pogacar a fascist with no evidence
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    Should all just be cool water under the bridge now.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Boswell's comments on the CyclingNews site yesterday are interesting. Riders willing to go to Jumbo for significantly less money than Ineos are offering.
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,982
    edited November 2023
    I read that too, no names of course, but a 'couple of his mates' apparently.

    Tulett one perhaps, or maybe not, as they would not have ridden together.

    DVB (Mr PFP) could be another I guess, and then Dennis.
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  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    ddraver said:

    (I was going to make a comment about how interesting I found his point about injury rehab being something he got on with rather than a great existential and spiritual journey and how it compared to my own experiences but...)

    I like that bit. He comes across at being incredibly mature. Says he chose Amsterdam because he wanted more from that time than just to recover from injury etc. quite a practical mindset.
  • mooro
    mooro Posts: 483
    ddraver said:

    If a bunch of genuine media outlets c*cked up, I think we can lay off Davidof...

    Sacking him feels harsh…. ;-)
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,123
    stage_hunter said:



    Those comments are not aimed at davidof.

    What can I say, you were write to pick up on this and I'll be a bit more wary of such stories in the future.

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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 317
    mooro said:

    ddraver said:

    (I was going to make a comment about how interesting I found his point about injury rehab being something he got on with rather than a great existential and spiritual journey and how it compared to my own experiences but...)

    I like that bit. He comes across at being incredibly mature. Says he chose Amsterdam because he wanted more from that time than just to recover from injury etc. quite a practical mindset.
    I think TGH is the most well-balanced, nicest sportsman Ive ever come across.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,982
    stage_hunter said:

    mooro said:

    ddraver said:

    (I was going to make a comment about how interesting I found his point about injury rehab being something he got on with rather than a great existential and spiritual journey and how it compared to my own experiences but...)

    I like that bit. He comes across at being incredibly mature. Says he chose Amsterdam because he wanted more from that time than just to recover from injury etc. quite a practical mindset.
    I think TGH is the most well-balanced, nicest sportsman Ive ever come across.
    Thomas too non?

    Pogacar seems like a genuine nice bloke as well, from what I've seen anyway, just seems to enjoy racing his bike, very fast.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    https://www.ineosgrenadiers.com/article/ineos-grenadiers-announce-key-appointments

    New CEO & performance director, Stevo as director of racing and ex-movi domestque Erviti as DS
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    Mad_Malx said:

    https://www.ineosgrenadiers.com/article/ineos-grenadiers-announce-key-appointments

    New CEO & performance director, Stevo as director of racing and ex-movi domestque Erviti as DS

    That's a potentially interesting move, I think Erviti has the attributes and personality to become a very, very good DS. Good to see Scott Drawer coming back too.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    andyp said:

    Mad_Malx said:

    https://www.ineosgrenadiers.com/article/ineos-grenadiers-announce-key-appointments

    New CEO & performance director, Stevo as director of racing and ex-movi domestque Erviti as DS

    That's a potentially interesting move, I think Erviti has the attributes and personality to become a very, very good DS. Good to see Scott Drawer coming back too.
    Scary post number, @andyp .


  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438

    Brailsford has resigned as team principal to go full time at Man U

    https://www.globalcyclingnetwork.com/racing/news/dave-brailsford-resigns-as-ineos-grenadiers-team-principal-to-focus-on-manchester-united

  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198

    500 wins for Sky/Ineos thanks to PFP winning a French XC Cup round in Marseille......

    https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1769357309321331143


    With no rumours of a women's team, it's looking like she may well be off after this year.

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    edited March 18
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21056314#Comment_21056314

    Nice that Team Ineos use a shot of Team Sky as the main photo! 🤣🤣🤣

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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21056319#Comment_21056319

    I think it's a photo of their first win.

    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21056314#Comment_21056314

    There isn't rumours of anything much. They seem completely devoid of ideas and/or budget. It's a far cry from the idea that "they're getting even richer" that was been spouted when sky pulled out.

    They should go for Phillipsen. They aren't winning a grand tour or maybe even a monument anytime soon.

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    edited March 18
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21056347#Comment_21056347

    Yeahbut someone media savvy would use a cover shot with their current sponsor.

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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21041016#Comment_21041016

    Can we reprise this - and maybe embiggen it? We’ve got a damp patch in the fresh plaster in the new bathroom that the geezer who did our roof is shrugging his shoulders at. It’d be good to have davidof as backup blaimant…

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21056925#Comment_21056925

    @davidof is in your attic, pissing onto your bathroom ceiling

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  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 526

    Escape Collective suggesting that all not well at the Grenadiers.

    Suggesting that Pidcock is having discussions around his contract and if he stays or goes, Arensmann still no decision, Tarling no decision and Dan Bigham to leave the team.

    Don't know how much of their speculation is fuelled by the netflix stuff and Pidcock not appearing to be a team player.

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438

    Dan Bigham is now a British Cycling funded athlete so he might be concentrating on that side of things

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21076231#Comment_21076231

    That was my take of the Netflix series. Not a rider you want in a team.

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