England Goes Smoke Free

Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 360

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fantastic Mr Fox

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I do, however, feel that alcohol should be restricted, ... somewhat out of control...
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Seriously? You really do want to live in a big brother state, don't you?
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I think the government has far more orwellian plans than controlling the amount of alcohol you shove down your neck. New number plate proposals are scary[:0]
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What are they? this is all I can find, but none really seem orwellian at all.

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360 · June 2007

plans i read about on a car forum where RFID chips in number plates, sensors at the side of the road and logging everysingle car journey in the country.

"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."

P.s Im not doing that again.

Big Red S · June 2007

Ah, the great RFID debate...

I wouldn't call that orwellian, though. To me, the important bit about big brother was the control, not the surveillance.

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Stinkyboy · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by yeehaamcgee

I wonder how much other taxes would have to be raised to compensate, if smoking were banned outright? Where would the NHS get it's money from?
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if the smoking ban comes, which i cannot wait for! as i hate other peoples smoke, the NHS will have nothing to do, as heart,liver,respiratory,circulatory,cancerous, and hundreds more issues will be severly reduced. My mums a corenary heart sister, she rarely gets people in who havent smoked at some point in their lives.
only dissapointing thing is, i'll be in france while all you pale-faced stinky folk are getting put outside![:D]

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Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkyboy

if the smoking ban comes, which i cannot wait for! as i hate other peoples smoke, the NHS will have nothing to do, as heart,liver,respiratory,circulatory,cancerous, and hundreds more issues will be severly reduced.
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Don't be stupid.

If everyone in the country stopped smoking tomorrow for ever, we'd still have a good 40 years of those people breaking. Giving up smoking doesn't undo all its ill-effects.

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Ben · June 2007

Hopefully it'll be like the ban here in France, where you would hardly notice there was even a ban...

I don't know what it's like in the UK, however I read in The Economist that Slovakia decided not to ban smokng as the NHS would actually lose money, from tax revenue from tobacco products...

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robb_o · June 2007

The ban is gonna be awesome!!

There's already a NEW bar in Basingstoke that doesn't allow smoking :-D

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bobmcstuff · June 2007

Can't wait. A few places we go to don't allow smoking, but most do. I hate it.

But it will be interesting and perhaps disgusting to see what clubs smell like under the smoke.

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extreme__dude · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bobmcstuff

Can't wait. A few places we go to don't allow smoking, but most do. I hate it.

But it will be interesting and perhaps disgusting to see what clubs smell like under the smoke.

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Mike Skinner · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ben

Hopefully it'll be like the ban here in France, where you would hardly notice there was even a ban...

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I'm pretty sure the equivalent French ban on smoking in bars comes in next year, so I'm not sure what is banned there at the moment?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Big Red S

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DahnHilla

There seems to be this general feeling that smokers are hard done by.
Well no-one made you smoke to start with.
I like to ride my bike where I can, I can't ride everywhere though, it's illegal and jeopardizes the safety of others, so I do it where I can.
I'd like to be able to drink everywhere, again I can't, so I'll drink where I'm allowed to.
Because both these things are done out of my choice I'll happily accept the sanctions that are imposed on me doing them. Smokers should do the same, if you choose to smoke you'll have to do it where you're allowed. Smoking is a choice not a necessity.
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That's exactly the analogy I was looking for about 12 pages ago...

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It's not a good analogy at all. Yes, you can only ride in certain places, and you've accepted that. But if they then came and closed down existing riding spots you would complain and fight it.

Thats how it is with the smoking ban. Smokers accept they can't smoke in cinema's, bus's and countless other places, but they don't want to lose the place they are allowed to enjoy thier luxuries

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ToMBeMe · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mike Skinner

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ben

Hopefully it'll be like the ban here in France, where you would hardly notice there was even a ban...

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I'm pretty sure the equivalent French ban on smoking in bars comes in next year, so I'm not sure what is banned there at the moment?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Big Red S

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DahnHilla

There seems to be this general feeling that smokers are hard done by.
Well no-one made you smoke to start with.
I like to ride my bike where I can, I can't ride everywhere though, it's illegal and jeopardizes the safety of others, so I do it where I can.
I'd like to be able to drink everywhere, again I can't, so I'll drink where I'm allowed to.
Because both these things are done out of my choice I'll happily accept the sanctions that are imposed on me doing them. Smokers should do the same, if you choose to smoke you'll have to do it where you're allowed. Smoking is a choice not a necessity.
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That's exactly the analogy I was looking for about 12 pages ago...

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It's not a good analogy at all. Yes, you can only ride in certain places, and you've accepted that. But if they then came and closed down existing riding spots you would complain and fight it.

Thats how it is with the smoking ban. Smokers accept they can't smoke in cinema's, bus's and countless other places, but they don't want to lose the place they are allowed to enjoy thier luxuries

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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The exsisting riding areas are built for bikers, just like designated smoking areas are built for smokers and biking doesnt hurt anyone else unless they walk on the biking areas, which is like me going into a designated smoking area and telling them to stop smoking becuase i dont like it.

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Ben · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mike Skinner

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ben

Hopefully it'll be like the ban here in France, where you would hardly notice there was even a ban...

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I'm pretty sure the equivalent French ban on smoking in bars comes in next year, so I'm not sure what is banned there at the moment?

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Yer, but it's supposed to be banned in cafes and restaurants at the moment but no-one seems to give a toss...

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Tom · June 2007

personally id rather not have the ban because id rather have a fag inside. but im quite willing to put up with it because i have to. no point biaaaaaaatch!ing and moaning that i think its wrong.

on the whole banning smoking/drinking/junk food thing i do feel much more strongly, saying you are going to ban those is no different from saying its a good idea to ban downhill mtb, skydiving, climbing, and hundreds of other 'extreme' sports. they dont serve any purpose apart from pleasure and are very dangerous but you still wanna do them so let people drink and smoke and eat crap as long as it isnt messing things up too much for other people (the smoking ban is a good example).

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Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mike Skinner

It's not a good analogy at all. Yes, you can only ride in certain places, and you've accepted that. But if they then came and closed down existing riding spots you would complain and fight it.

Thats how it is with the smoking ban. Smokers accept they can't smoke in cinema's, bus's and countless other places, but they don't want to lose the place they are allowed to enjoy thier luxuries
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So you don't have a problem with the ban so much as it's introduction?

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JinjaNinja · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fantastic Mr Fox

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Red Lemon

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Mr Fox, you're a fucking idiot.
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Have to agree on that one. It was a rather stupid thing to say.
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At the end of the day, if you don't want to be in a smoky environment...don't go to the fu*king pub.

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Well said that man.

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JinjaNinja · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kitty

Everyones still going to get cancer from the high levels of pollution from cars etc... Its just as dangerouse as pasive smoking IMO and everyone who blames it all on smokers and then jumps in a car to go to the local shops can fuck off and rot in hell

I can't wait.

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Seriously kids, theres worse thngs then nicotine.

And this ban just means were ALL going to be on the streets, breathing our smoke into the face of little curiouse children at the bus stop, in the parks, as some cockfag decided it wasn't excepatable in pubs. Riiiight.

Smoke time, I'm off to poison the genral public once more.

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Mike Skinner · June 2007

yeah, lets start a revolution of standing outside pubs blowing smoke over those who enter and leave.
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JammyH · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mike Skinner

yeah, lets start a revolution of standing outside pubs blowing smoke over those who enter and leave.
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Ill see you out there [;)] [:D]

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ChrisYZ3 · June 2007

People smoke outsdide blowing their smoke everywhere anyway. At least there will be somewhere to go to get away from it.

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Mike Skinner · June 2007

err, there is currently. Everywhere in the country except pubs, and very few smoking cafe's etc.

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ChrisYZ3 · June 2007

I know, I know. Anyway, some pubs are thinking about 'defying' the ban anyway. Bit stupid seeing as it's their health that's being affected the most by smokers seeing as they work in a smoky environment every day. Guess they're afraid of losing customers 'cos they're all stood outside. [:p]

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magnus · June 2007

Cant be botherd reading all pages. Scotlands far better since it went smoke free. Smoke free england will at least one thing off the list which makes going to england a crap time.....

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Mike Skinner · June 2007

yeah, cos everyone's rushing up to visit Scotland..

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Tom · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by magnus

Cant be botherd reading all pages. Scotlands far better since it went smoke free. Smoke free england will at least one thing off the list which makes going to england a crap time.....

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you arnt even allowed in the pub

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