England Goes Smoke Free

extreme__dude · June 2007

or...the shady looking black guy in the toilets will make a mint on aftershave and purfume sales..

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Matt · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by doug

i cant wait untill the ban
grubby sillys like me can then wear clothes from a night out again in the morning hahah

even some of my smoking friends think its a good idea

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Yeah, that will be nice.

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mr pie man 2 · June 2007

I hate smoke/smoking but I'm not going to wear the same clothes over and over.

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Kitty · June 2007

Matt's just a skank.

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mr pie man 2 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kitty

Matt's just a skank whore.

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Kitty · June 2007

That too.

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mr pie man 2 · June 2007

I love him really, I never did find him down here in the south though.

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Matt · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mr pie man 2

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kitty

Matt's just a skank whore.

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Kitty · June 2007

Yeah Baby [;)]

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DahnHilla · June 2007

There seems to be this general feeling that smokers are hard done by.
Well no-one made you smoke to start with.
I like to ride my bike where I can, I can't ride everywhere though, it's illegal and jeopardizes the safety of others, so I do it where I can.
I'd like to be able to drink everywhere, again I can't, so I'll drink where I'm allowed to.
Because both these things are done out of my choice I'll happily accept the sanctions that are imposed on me doing them. Smokers should do the same, if you choose to smoke you'll have to do it where you're allowed. Smoking is a choice not a necessity.

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Cerberus · June 2007

I know I'm probably going to get completly roasted for saying this, but I think they should just ban smoking everywhere forever, just stop making the damn things. They have all the adverts and campaigns to try and stop smoking, that just won;t do it though, if they just stopped them altogethor there would be no problem, or atleast less of a problem, I suppose the really desperate people would find a way of getting some, make their own or illegally smuggle but most of the people I would have thought wouldn't want to commit crimes just to smoke and would probably find it easier to quit as the temptation isn't there anymore.

I hate smoke, makes my eyes screw up.

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Matt · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cerberus

I know I'm probably going to get completly roasted for saying this, but I think they should just ban smoking everywhere forever, just stop making the damn things. They have all the adverts and campaigns to try and stop smoking, that just won;t do it though, if they just stopped them altogethor there would be no problem, or atleast less of a problem, I suppose the really desperate people would find a way of getting some, make their own or illegally smuggle but most of the people I would have thought wouldn't want to commit crimes just to smoke and would probably find it easier to quit as the temptation isn't there anymore.

I hate smoke, makes my eyes screw up.

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That would be nice, however the tobacco lobby's are far too powerful.

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jamiejim · June 2007

I think one of the best reasons for the ban is for the health of the barstaff. At the moment they are working hours on end in smokey environments, The ban is definatly good news for them

Sav · June 2007

why would it be banned forever? If i want to smoke in my house (which I don't) why can't I?! add the fact that it makes an absolute fortune for the governement in tax.
If you are going to start banning unhealthy/unneccessary 'past times' let's get rid of all non-commercial/public road traffic and all pubs as well!
unless you spend an unhealthy amount of time in the pub or in a smoky atmosphere the chances of you dying from a passive smoking related disease are very slim, so dry up and worry about something else!
roll on 1st July when all the cool people will be in the beer garden
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pete700 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Matt<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">

That would be nice, however the tobacco lobby's are far too powerful.

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And prohibition just doesn't work.

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add the fact that it makes an absolute fortune for the governement in tax.

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I should think it breaks even when the health bill for smokers comes through though.

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Sav · June 2007

aye, I don't know any figures but I'm sure it's not far off evening it out...

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Anonymous · June 2007

I wonder how much other taxes would have to be raised to compensate, if smoking were banned outright? Where would the NHS get it's money from?

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Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by whyamihere

I do, however, feel that alcohol should be restricted, ... somewhat out of control...
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That's all already legislated against, though. The problem now is working out how to structure a police force so they can spend as much time and money on removing effectiveness and ineffciency (it /is/ a government department after all) while still being able to police things.

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Anonymous · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Big Red S

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by whyamihere

I do, however, feel that alcohol should be restricted, ... somewhat out of control...
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That's all already legislated against, though. The problem now is working out how to structure a police force so they can spend as much time and money on removing effectiveness and ineffciency (it /is/ a government department after all) while still being able to police things.

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Actually, i don't think being able to actually police things is anywhere near their list of priorities.

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Big Red S · June 2007

No, it clearly isn't. That's the problem.

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Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Alex

Roll on the smoking ban. Especially in clubs.

Hopefully it'll see the "social smokers" quit. I hope. That'll put an end to the "Ewww, just got off with an ashtray" situation that I keep finding myself in.
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But it'll also make it harder for you to spot the anti-social (for want of a better term) smokers, since you won't see them smoking.

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Big Red S · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DahnHilla

There seems to be this general feeling that smokers are hard done by.
Well no-one made you smoke to start with.
I like to ride my bike where I can, I can't ride everywhere though, it's illegal and jeopardizes the safety of others, so I do it where I can.
I'd like to be able to drink everywhere, again I can't, so I'll drink where I'm allowed to.
Because both these things are done out of my choice I'll happily accept the sanctions that are imposed on me doing them. Smokers should do the same, if you choose to smoke you'll have to do it where you're allowed. Smoking is a choice not a necessity.
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That's exactly the analogy I was looking for about 12 pages ago...

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sav

unless you spend an unhealthy amount of time in the pub or in a smoky atmosphere
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Like work with people who smoke?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by yeehaamcgee

I wonder how much other taxes would have to be raised to compensate, if smoking were banned outright? Where would the NHS get it's money from?
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Smoking fines?

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Fantastic Mr Fox · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by whyamihere

I do, however, feel that alcohol should be restricted, ... somewhat out of control...
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Seriously? You really do want to live in a big brother state, don't you?

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360 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fantastic Mr Fox

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by whyamihere

I do, however, feel that alcohol should be restricted, ... somewhat out of control...
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Seriously? You really do want to live in a big brother state, don't you?

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I think the government has far more orwellian plans than controlling the amount of alcohol you shove down your neck. New number plate proposals are scary[:0]

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P.s Im not doing that again.

Dean · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lacuna

Originally posted by Mike Skinner

I'm not comfortable going out in the rain.

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Sav · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Big Red S
Like work with people who smoke?
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I can't think of any work environment (not saying there isn't any, but they must be very rare in this day and age with H&S regulations) where you would HAVE to be subjected to passive smoking. Anywhere I have worked you have just had to go outside.
If you do, and feel that strongly about it, give them a boot in the balls and tell them to go outside!

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360 · June 2007

working in a pub?

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P.s Im not doing that again.

Sav · June 2007

that's not working with people that smoke, it's working in an environment where people smoke![;)]
but, yea, i guess that's the exception. if it was me and i was that against smoking i just wouldn't work in a pub. I know nobody should have to be subjected to it if they don't want to, but up until 1st July they'll have to keep schtum!

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Fantastic Mr Fox · June 2007

Well to be honest, if you work in a pub/club thats part of the job. Like many manual labor jobs lead to lower life expectancy's, working in a pub you are going to be subject to second hand smoke. (However dangerous it really is) It's your choice to work there. I really don't see why they have to make smoking illegal, can't they make it the pub/club owners choice as to whether they want smokers in there establishment.

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ToMBeMe · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sav

that's not working with people that smoke, it's working in an environment where people smoke![;)]
but, yea, i guess that's the exception. if it was me and i was that against smoking i just wouldn't work in a pub. I know nobody should have to be subjected to it if they don't want to, but up until 1st July they'll have to keep schtum!

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