Glasgow Worlds 2023 *spoiler thread*
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I previously mentioned the 1995 Worlds. This is the bottom of the 20 finshers. Chapeau to Arroyo and Hampsten, 22 minutes behind the previous group, particularly Andy who had nothing to prove at that point.jimmyjams said:.
All those 51 who bothered to finish (i.e. not withdrawing because of crash or mechanical) have my admiration. I always have that feeling for finishers in one-day racespblakeney said:
Tbh, once you’re 2 minutes back with less than 5 laps remaining there was no point in continuing.Pross said:51 finishers. I didn’t think there were that many still going.
Riders don’t seem to like the course.
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Since WVA won his only monument, VDP has won 4, and the world champs.RichN95. said:Van der Poel v Van Aert
Races that each have won where the other was in the top ten (always top 5 in fact)
Van der Poel: Worlds, Strade, De Ronde, San Remo, Roubaix, 3 other races
Van Aert: E3, one other race
This isn't a rivalry, it's an abusive relationship.
It also echoes what happens at CX. When they both are firing, it’s usually VDP who wins.
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Not sure if it was shown on tv but at the track they seemed to have added an extra lap to some guys and not awarded it to guys who had just made the lap gain, so for a few minutes the points on the big screen was wrong. The riders will glance st that to try and keep up with where they arejimmyjams said:
I understood that the points allocation had been changed compared to last year, so was again similar to what it was 10-20 years ago. Don't ask me for the details. But surely the riders should have known this?No_Ta_Doctor said:The omnium points race was completely banjaxed by random point allocations, nobody had any idea what was going on. Larsen believed he was in 3rd, until he wasn't anymore. Viviani was outraged
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It also echoes what happens at CX. When they both are firing, it’s usually VDP who wins.
It would be ironic if Van Aert became more loved for being the Eternal Second, like Poulidor did.Twitter: @RichN952 -
They added several extra laps, they were up for quite a while, only removed with 10 to go, by which time it's getting a bit late to change things muchneonriver said:
Not sure if it was shown on tv but at the track they seemed to have added an extra lap to some guys and not awarded it to guys who had just made the lap gain, so for a few minutes the points on the big screen was wrong. The riders will glance st that to try and keep up with where they arejimmyjams said:
I understood that the points allocation had been changed compared to last year, so was again similar to what it was 10-20 years ago. Don't ask me for the details. But surely the riders should have known this?No_Ta_Doctor said:The omnium points race was completely banjaxed by random point allocations, nobody had any idea what was going on. Larsen believed he was in 3rd, until he wasn't anymore. Viviani was outraged
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Crazy save, fantastic vidNo_Ta_Doctor said:Oooh, Bettiol save - bidon drops out of cage and hits back wheel in a corner
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We forget that although we're not interested in things like MTB Marathon or bike football, for the people that are these races are very important...
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Do Rangers win things that Celtic know they can't win so don't try to?
Clearly mvdp is on top in the races he wins,but don't let's have a pop at van aert like he's not a great rider too.0 -
Yeah, I had said as much earlier.jimmyjams said:.
All those 51 who bothered to finish (i.e. not withdrawing because of crash or mechanical) have my admiration. I always have that feeling for finishers in one-day racespblakeney said:
Tbh, once you’re 2 minutes back with less than 5 laps remaining there was no point in continuing.Pross said:51 finishers. I didn’t think there were that many still going.
Riders don’t seem to like the course.pblakeney said:Feeling sorry for the stragglers. They are getting great support but it’s a thankless task.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'm not having a pop at him. He's probably the best domestique in the world. But for someone who is frequently sold to us as the best bike rider in the world, or at least one of the galacticos, he doesn't win many big races.kingstongraham said:
Clearly mvdp is on top in the races he wins,but don't let's have a pop at van aert like he's not a great rider too.
The cycling fraternity have somehow become obsessed with an ability to contend a variety of races rather than win lots of a certain type.Twitter: @RichN951 -
Ganna’s fastest lap of the pursuit was his last, unreal stamina. Only led 2 laps first and last0
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I am having the best week.RichN95. said:
Nice video. It's like you're in the race.alan_a said:I had the best day doing start and finish line mic duties...
I even managed to run up Montrose St 5 mins before the lead convoy
BEST DAY EVER
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvmjR1hsnUn/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
What do your mic duties actually entail? Are you commentating?
Hosted opening ceremony.
Start and finish line commentary for the RR and Finish at the top of Stirling Castle for TT
And when there's a protest I tun into hospitality and grab the first person I can find to interview them on the fanzone stage... Yesterday it was this guy as he was taking his coat off. . . He got almost as big a cheer as MVDP
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Was the MTB marathon televised? I can find coverage on Iplayer?ddraver said:We forget that although we're not interested in things like MTB Marathon or bike football, for the people that are these races are very important...
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Friebe with the tactical analysis
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MvdP and Pog make races, they are willing to try things in the hope of winning, and that often pays off.
WvA very, very rarely makes the race, he just follows, and then can't go with the main attack, or gets outsprinted by the likes of MvdP at the end.
On a team level, the danes are also willing to make a race.
Wout is a great all round rider, but he isn't on the same level as the other two in one dayers.0 -
Rab Wardell designed the marathon course before he died apparently.ddraver said:We forget that although we're not interested in things like MTB Marathon or bike football, for the people that are these races are very important...
The riding up at Golfie is nuts - that's where I was riding Saturday morning and it was all marked out for the marathon. Angry Sheep is over on the Innerleithen side, I have ridden some of those but I don't think that one. There were lots of pros out doing recon.
Glentress was also marked out for it when I was up there Friday (again saw about six riders who weren't pros doing recons, the XC lot were up there mainly).0 -
I think it would be really really hard to televise well as you couldn't have a camera alongside for most of it. Maybe with smart use of drones you could televise parts of it, but even then a lot of those trails have heavy tree cover. There were some road/fireroad linking sections you could have camera bikes alongside.tailwindhome said:
Was the MTB marathon televised? I can find coverage on Iplayer?ddraver said:We forget that although we're not interested in things like MTB Marathon or bike football, for the people that are these races are very important...
It's not like the XC which is on a compact course so you can use a network of fixed cameras.0 -
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Yeah Wout, sprint aside, is just less explosive than those two.Dorset_Boy said:MvdP and Pog make races, they are willing to try things in the hope of winning, and that often pays off.
WvA very, very rarely makes the race, he just follows, and then can't go with the main attack, or gets outsprinted by the likes of MvdP at the end.
On a team level, the danes are also willing to make a race.
Wout is a great all round rider, but he isn't on the same level as the other two in one dayers.
I wonder if he should try and go on a sky diet and follow the route of Wiggins & Thomas.
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One of maybe 3-4 riders that can go 4.02.r0bh said:
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I think MvdP and Pog are quite good mates, as shown in one of the spring races when MvdP told Pog where to attack, which he then did on his way to victory.
Wout definitely the outsider.0 -
OK I am now watching from 170km to go.
Already seen about 5 parked cars on the course. WTF. This is the worlds.0 -
Caught up last night. Wouldn't want a course like that every year but by crikey that was good fun2
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Good question - it doesn't appear there was anything, nothing was mentioned. I made do with just the live timing, and even that wasn't great - times taken at the end of each lap.tailwindhome said:
Was the MTB marathon televised? I can find coverage on Iplayer?ddraver said:We forget that although we're not interested in things like MTB Marathon or bike football, for the people that are these races are very important...
Coverage of previous XC Marathon Worlds has been hit or miss; last year in Denmark was poor, 2021 in Elba was pretty decent with camera bikes, and it was fairly easy to work out who was leading.
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