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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,764

    Went to see The Chameleons pay at the Fleece in Bristol last night with a friend who is a professional musician and singer. The gig was very loud. I put wads of cotton wool in my ears, she had special sound attenuating earbuds specially for gigs (which she didn't use!)
    The sound was very loud even with the cotton wool and to me it was over-amplified and a bit distorted and would have been better if it had been turned down 2-3 notches (I guess all people that do sound checks at venues suffer from hearing loss?).
    Anyway, after the gig our friend was raving about how good the sound was, the mixing was spot on for the different instruments, the vocals clear and the separation was really good. My listening experience was very different from this. Yes, the cotton wool does muffle the high frequncies a bit but at least my ears weren't ringing afterwards.
    Apart from that it was an absolute blinder of a gig! All the tracks from Script of the Bridge album. It was most excellent.


    This.

    I went to hear Youngblood Brass Band at Exeter Phoenix years ago... I know that they are fantastic musicians, but I really couldn't hear just how good they were because it was waaay too loud, the Sousaphone was distorting the whole time, and it was just really painful, with people with their fingers in their ears.

    Sanrky Puppy at O2 Bristol were really good, and a good sound.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,145
    I had not picked up any musical instruments since school. I played clarinet in the school orchestra and it was a truly horrible instrument held together with elastic bands. I hated it.

    When lockdown came along and I was getting bored I retraced my musical journey from school and bought a recorder. I was amazed after so many years how easy it was to remember how to play. Actually as a solo instrument rather cute when playing the music that was written for it, renaissance and baroque.

    I then got ambitious and bought a 2nd hand clarinet from ebay and struck lucky, a gorgeous Yamaha instrument, that didn’t sound like an out of tune kazoo.

    From there saxophone was an easy step. I’m no Charlie Parker, but to shut myself in a room and play like no one is listening is just fabulous.

    Also, Youtube is a brilliant resource for technique and lessons etc.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    I tried the clarinet when one of my sisters took it up and would have liked to play saxophone but I found the vibration feeling of the reed quite an unpleasant sensation.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,978
    Someone near us is learning the Trombone and is trying to play the theme to "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". It's bloody awful!!! Comedic in fact. Unrecognisable at best.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,145
    Pross said:

    I tried the clarinet when one of my sisters took it up and would have liked to play saxophone but I found the vibration feeling of the reed quite an unpleasant sensation.

    Not had that issue, but taking it up again reminded me how much it made my face ache. I could only play about 10 mins at a time for the first few weeks. I guess that would be the same for brass players as well.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,764
    edited July 2023

    Someone near us is learning the Trombone and is trying to play the theme to "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". It's bloody awful!!! Comedic in fact. Unrecognisable at best.


    It's a Grade 5 piece, which is probably why they are doing it, but it's a tricky one to do well, as you've heard.
  • One of our neighbours was learning to play the bagpipes, always seemed to be outside ...... found put it was because his wife said it was too loud indoors, thankfully be did gradually get better 😅
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1MMzMGX8xY
    I mean if Putin listened to that on repeat we'd be in cheap gas heaven right now.

    Nine Rogers behind a lot of classics.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Amazing voice and drums.

    Lack of dancing given the song title trivially annoys me
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited July 2023
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnJIb4A-DuY
    Some people need medical help to get rid of the moves.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    https://youtu.be/tANNuHCPtKA

    The guest that Elton should have had at Glasto...
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    The Boss at Hyde Park.
    As awesome as ever. Very happy bunny last night and still humming today.
  • homers_double
    homers_double Posts: 8,332
    I used to play Eflat bass at school in a national championship winning band so have a fairly decent ear.
    Off to see my childhood band, James tomorrow at the Piece Hall in Halifax, seen them loads over the years.
    Also love a good house session.
    Hate the current fad of rap, its bloody awfull.
    Advocate of disc brakes.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Just decided to go see blur tonight.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Just decided to go see blur tonight.

    Was immense. Decided that this is the only view to have when looking backwards at a stadium concert.


  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    There's something wrong with having these concerts in the light - blur came on at 7:50, and it wasn't vaguely dark until 9:30 with a 10pm curfew at Wembley.

    I'd paid the big bucks and somehow got a ticket in the front section on the day of, so it was all really immersive and didn't matter at all to me yesterday, but when I went to Depeche Mode at Twickenham, it only really made sense once it was dark. Paying best part of £100 for a compromised show isn't really the best, is it?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    There's something wrong with having these concerts in the light - blur came on at 7:50, and it wasn't vaguely dark until 9:30 with a 10pm curfew at Wembley.

    I'd paid the big bucks and somehow got a ticket in the front section on the day of, so it was all really immersive and didn't matter at all to me yesterday, but when I went to Depeche Mode at Twickenham, it only really made sense once it was dark. Paying best part of £100 for a compromised show isn't really the best, is it?

    Yep, I saw Metallica in mid June a few years ago and the atmosphere really only built when it started to get dark. There was a massive downpour though which gave some pretty impressive close up images of the rain bouncing off the drum kit. The performance of One was spectacular but would have been even better in darkness.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Saw ABBA Voyage at the weekend - was really good fun and amazing visuals. Certainly wouldn't think it was all holograms etc - they are EXTREMELY lifelike.

    Well worth it!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    edited July 2023

    Just decided to go see blur tonight.

    Was immense. Decided that this is the only view to have when looking backwards at a stadium concert.


    This was the view forward :)



    They were so on it. Coxon is a ridiculously good guitarist and Albarn seemed to actually enjoy performing the back catalogue. Even the two new songs were good. And of course Phil Daniels popped up as ever.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    The whole thing still puzzles me. Not sure when Blur were at their peak, but in 1997, you could still watch them at Brixton Academy and the Brighton Centre. Now they can sell out back to back concerts at Wembley Stadium.

    Nonetheless, glad you enjoyed it.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    The whole thing still puzzles me. Not sure when Blur were at their peak, but in 1997, you could still watch them at Brixton Academy and the Brighton Centre. Now they can sell out back to back concerts at Wembley Stadium.

    Nonetheless, glad you enjoyed it.

    I saw them at Brixton in 1997 and it's possibly the best concert I've ever been to. Right at the front, and they were just coming off the end of a tour of arenas, so they'd done NEC, Wembley Arena etc and brought the same set.

    Only real UK shows this year (or for the last 8 years), and who knows when (or if) they will be in the mood again. Glad I changed my mind.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029

    The whole thing still puzzles me. Not sure when Blur were at their peak, but in 1997, you could still watch them at Brixton Academy and the Brighton Centre. Now they can sell out back to back concerts at Wembley Stadium.

    Nonetheless, glad you enjoyed it.

    I saw them at Brixton in 1997 and it's possibly the best concert I've ever been to. Right at the front, and they were just coming off the end of a tour of arenas, so they'd done NEC, Wembley Arena etc and brought the same set.

    Only real UK shows this year (or for the last 8 years), and who knows when (or if) they will be in the mood again. Glad I changed my mind.
    All noted, but Wembley Arena is a lot small than Wembley Stadium. It would also give you your darkness. The list of bands that could have sold out Wembley Stadium was tiny in those days.

    I just find people's enthusiasm to spend more money to see a band that was big years ago really intriguing, but of course nothing wrong with it at all. My enthusiasm has gone completely the other way.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.

    I'm more surprised that Def Leppard are playing Wembley Stadium.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,657

    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.

    I'm more surprised that Def Leppard are playing Wembley Stadium.
    I don't think they sold that many tickets...

    Re the popularity of older bands, I'd guess for many blur fans (to pick an example) a lot missed them the first time around, and for many others nostalgia is extremely powerful.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    Jezyboy said:

    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.

    I'm more surprised that Def Leppard are playing Wembley Stadium.
    I don't think they sold that many tickets...

    Re the popularity of older bands, I'd guess for many blur fans (to pick an example) a lot missed them the first time around, and for many others nostalgia is extremely powerful.

    I didn't realise it had already happened.

    That's not good.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    edited July 2023
    There's probably still more people there than most venues could accommodate.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Jezyboy said:

    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.

    I'm more surprised that Def Leppard are playing Wembley Stadium.
    I don't think they sold that many tickets...

    Re the popularity of older bands, I'd guess for many blur fans (to pick an example) a lot missed them the first time around, and for many others nostalgia is extremely powerful.


    I do completely get this and many retired sports stars top up their income in senior events. I just don't understand why the group of people is greater than when the performers were in their prime.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Jezyboy said:

    Red Hot Chili Peppers have been in gradual decline since the 80s.

    I'm more surprised that Def Leppard are playing Wembley Stadium.
    I don't think they sold that many tickets...

    Re the popularity of older bands, I'd guess for many blur fans (to pick an example) a lot missed them the first time around, and for many others nostalgia is extremely powerful.


    I do completely get this and many retired sports stars top up their income in senior events. I just don't understand why the group of people is greater than when the performers were in their prime.
    More disposable income to spend on tickets to gigs? Also, gigs were less popular than recorded music back then whereas now it's all about the event. Stadium gigs where the preserve of the very biggest artists in the world in the 80s / 90s whereas now moderately successful acts will perform at a few stadia and the big bands do multiple nights at several venues. The whole experience is different too, what I thought at the time was a great stage show by Metallica on the Damaged Justice tour in 1988 was very Spinal Tap compared to the gig at the Eithiad in 2019.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    I don't think there are - Oasis played two nights at Wembley stadium in 2000 and they were comparable. The second of those is on youtube and notable for the rest of the band just getting on with a normal gig while Liam has anything but.

    Essential viewing for anyone who thinks an Oasis reunion should happen.