Critérium du Dauphiné 2023, June 4th - 11th ***Spoilers***

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    80kph descent with the bunch still kerb to kerb (or in Carlton's world all hell is breaking loose).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    Not Alaphilippe's stage today, second bike change with 7km left
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Race directors car got JA back on
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Ouch
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    Another crash, miraculously only seems to have taken out a couple.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    And another
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Ouch
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Part Deux
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    edited June 2023
    Groaning wagon down in that one

    Edit - this was duff commentary from Kirby
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Laporte.....yes
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Flying
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    Or not. Major switch by Bennett who had a perfect leadout before getting passed by Laporte. If he's stayed straight he'd probably have won.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    Groenewegen third but Bennett in second will almost certainly get relegated.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Not sure if Bennett deserves relegation or not, his movement to the right was consistent and didn't obviously impede anyone. Groenewegen's move to get past the Bahrain rider was more relegation worthy.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    andyp said:

    Not sure if Bennett deserves relegation or not, his movement to the right was consistent and didn't obviously impede anyone. Groenewegen's move to get past the Bahrain rider was more relegation worthy.

    Doesn't look as bad from the front but overhead looks bad. I really don't know why he drifted, he ended up going further when he had a perfect position to start from. He took most of the others across with him.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Pross said:

    Or not. Major switch by Bennett who had a perfect leadout before getting passed by Laporte. If he's stayed straight he'd probably have won.

    Bennett certainly seemed to take the scenic route. Laporte came from quite a way back in the last few hundred metres. Think Groenewegen might have beaten Bennett as well if he hadn't been impeded though - he didn't seem to have that much of a kick to me?
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Relegation for me - he used 2/3 of the road there.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Is he DQ'd
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Really impressed by Laporte again - launched at exactly the right time.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    andyp said:

    Not sure if Bennett deserves relegation or not, his movement to the right was consistent and didn't obviously impede anyone. Groenewegen's move to get past the Bahrain rider was more relegation worthy.

    This is the thing. The movement was bad enough but it seems riders only get DQd for consequences rather than the act.

    If there had been a crash it's an auto DQ but as it is, it's debatable. In my opinion it should be a DQ no matter the consequences
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,450
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    Didn't notice Groenewegen's move although Andy mentioned it. Ironic that he was getting stroppy at being impeded but had done the same. Good to see a bit of consistency and riders getting DQd without there needing to be a crash.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    Would personally prefer a gradual door closing by the rider in front to be legal, opens options for using your head and not just legs. As long as its not a swerve and you're far ahead it should be fine
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Would personally prefer a gradual door closing by the rider in front to be legal, opens options for using your head and not just legs. As long as its not a swerve and you're far ahead it should be fine

    Use your head and let the leadout guy drop you off by the barrier if you want to seal one side off. And if you're that far ahead why do you need to move across anyone? Having seen what happens when people end up in the barriers it seems fair enough to try and reduce the likelihood of it happening, as much fun as old school sprinting was.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    edited June 2023
    Groenewegen not happy.

    (Tweet deleted where he called the UCI clowns)

    Don't think it was his brakes that made him try to barge Govekar out of the way when Bennett drifted in front of them.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    When you've been put in this situation, you can't just make yourself a gap.


  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,024
    He looked annoyed at being blocked, so knocked someone else out the way.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Wow he's out sprinting the sprinklers now!

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Laporte threaded that like a turbo charged eel . Bennet looked like if he had forgotten how sprints work ...that was absurd . Using your head is going to get you DQ'd these days, GrWg should have known better.


    If there had been a crash Bennet would have been super unpopular
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    edited June 2023
    mididoctors said:

    Laporte threaded that like a turbo charged eel . Bennet looked like if he had forgotten how sprints work ...that was absurd . Using your head is going to get you DQ'd these days, GrWg should have known better.


    If there had been a crash Bennet would have been super unpopular

    I still don't get why Bennett even changed line. It's not like he veered to get on someone else's wheel so all he end up doing was covering extra distance for no obvious benefit other than to block other riders and if that was in his head then surely he'd have been aware enough to know he'd get a DQ?

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