Giro d'Italia 23 Stage 13: Borgofranco d’Ivrea - Crans Montana, 75 km not so serious **SPOILERS**
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Was scheduled for 253km, then the organisers said they needed to add 5km because of roadworks or something.mididoctors said:
Remember the stage just not the year ...was it really 258k !?kingstongraham said:
Stage 19 was shortened because it was wet and they were all knackered. Should have been 258km, was 124km.stage_hunter said:
Stage 20 which was covid not weather related- They didnt go up the agnello into Francemididoctors said:Did the 2020 Oct giro have any stages shortened ?
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That is an absurd distance in a GT ......kingstongraham said:
Was scheduled for 253km, then the organisers said they needed to add 5km because of roadworks or something.mididoctors said:
Remember the stage just not the year ...was it really 258k !?kingstongraham said:
Stage 19 was shortened because it was wet and they were all knackered. Should have been 258km, was 124km.stage_hunter said:
Stage 20 which was covid not weather related- They didnt go up the agnello into Francemididoctors said:Did the 2020 Oct giro have any stages shortened ?
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
This. Climbs seem to get taken out regulalry on the Giro, either keep the higher climbs out of the route or have a back up ready and waiting in the event of a poor weather forecast.mididoctors said:Why isn't there alternative pre planned
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I went in 2017 to climb it on Stelvio Day, when they close the road to cars. It's either the last Sunday of August or the first in September. It was 2 degrees in Prato on the morning, raining, and snowing further up, they shut the road to all traffic at Trafoi. I don't think they can guarantee they will be able to ride it on any day of the year! I'd just spent a fortnight on the Adriatic in +35 degree temps. gutted.wakemalcolm said:Climbed the Stelvio in early September 2006 and it was snowing at the summit. There's no guarantees with the high mountains.
Maybe in addition to having contingency plans to cut out passes in bad weather, they could look at having plans to 'cut in' extra climbing in later stages if the overall parcours has been flattened uncharacteristically.
(* This proposal is of course binned if Ganna is in pink due to snow in the high mountains)
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Just rode up the final climb. Punchy for the first few k, and then a real diesel climb for the final 10km. Expect it to come to an uphill sprint in the last 500m after a false flat and then downhill. Weather conditions are way better than expected. Sunshine with a cool breeze, mostly tailwind.4
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I've not watched any of the coverage yet. Have they at least retained some of the feel of this stage by putting the sprinters in their own bus at the back of the convoy?2
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Will there be a special dispensation for PTP? With the shortened stage it reduces the chance of a breakaway, one would imagine0
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Great postred.rider said:Just rode up the final climb. Punchy for the first few k, and then a real diesel climb for the final 10km. Expect it to come to an uphill sprint in the last 500m after a false flat and then downhill. Weather conditions are way better than expected. Sunshine with a cool breeze, mostly tailwind.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
You could argue they haven't started and change your pick ? Not sure if that's a faux pais thoughtakethehighroad said:Will there be a special dispensation for PTP? With the shortened stage it reduces the chance of a breakaway, one would imagine
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
I'm guessing closing different roads at late notice is problematic, even if they're in 'the plan'Pross said:
This. Climbs seem to get taken out regulalry on the Giro, either keep the higher climbs out of the route or have a back up ready and waiting in the event of a poor weather forecast.mididoctors said:Why isn't there alternative pre planned
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I think the logistics would be close to impossible.poweredbyidris said:
I'm guessing closing different roads at late notice is problematic, even if they're in 'the plan'Pross said:
This. Climbs seem to get taken out regulalry on the Giro, either keep the higher climbs out of the route or have a back up ready and waiting in the event of a poor weather forecast.mididoctors said:Why isn't there alternative pre planned
Add in to that of when do they make the decision. Day before and it does become impossible. Too much earlier and then if nothing actually happens (weather wise) then they'll be pilloried in the media (both traditional and social versions) and probably by one or two of the team principles/DS's0 -
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I’ll accept PTP picks up til 14:30 local time (13:30 UK time) when the riders roll out.takethehighroad said:Will there be a special dispensation for PTP? With the shortened stage it reduces the chance of a breakaway, one would imagine
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Ugo has asked me to mention this:
I think you want to mention that the late Antonio Carluccio, founder of the famous chain of restaurants, was born and raised in Borgofranco d'Ivrea"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Teams only just arriving at start"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Late start I think"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Dry conditions though"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Should they just cancel the stage?
Some teams think they're starting in 10 minutes others have only just arrived. Not even sure if INEOS have got there yet0 -
This race needs some luck"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Coughstage_hunter said:
120km? In a bus?mididoctors said:1:30pm UK time start
They are leaving now.....google maps says 2 hours 39 mins by car......mididoctors said:1:30pm UK time start
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SEP kuss in separate vehicle?"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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IMO this would be sensible. The forecast for the Croix De Coeur is still hail showersJimD666 said:Should they just cancel the stage?
Some teams think they're starting in 10 minutes others have only just arrived. Not even sure if INEOS have got there yet0 -
We got Blaise about covid too. Sure it's not killer it was with the vax and everything but it's rife due to complancey ."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Start delayed by 30mins"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Bugger!red.rider said:
I’ll accept PTP picks up til 14:30 local time (13:30 UK time) when the riders roll out.takethehighroad said:Will there be a special dispensation for PTP? With the shortened stage it reduces the chance of a breakaway, one would imagine
That'll teach me not to spend time with the wife. 🤣The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The original proposal that they would start at 2.30pm local whether or not everyone was there or they would only wait for the last team arriving to get to the start line would have been harsh given the organisers had taken so long to decide what was going to happen. 3.00pm start seems reasonable. Couldn’t they have found a few miles of flat road to start them on though?0
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I suspect you may get an extra 30 mins ⏱️ start delayed againpblakeney said:
censored !red.rider said:
I’ll accept PTP picks up til 14:30 local time (13:30 UK time) when the riders roll out.takethehighroad said:Will there be a special dispensation for PTP? With the shortened stage it reduces the chance of a breakaway, one would imagine
That'll teach me not to spend time with the wife. 🤣"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
A shambles. Worth looking at the various replies and photos that have been posted in reply to Hansen's proclamation.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
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You guys got commentary ?"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
