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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Ineos rarely do announcements about renewals, they just quietly extend contracts.

    They aren't being linked with many riders either, so I'd imagine next year's line-up will be broadly similar to this year's. I think if they can hold on to Carlos Rodriguez then they'll consider they've done well.
  • jimmythecuckoo
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    They are waiting to announce Remco :)
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  • roscoe
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    Perhaps they’re waiting for Rodriguez to make his mind up…..
  • webboo
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    Maybe once they’ve bought Remco they can’t afford anyone else.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    This made me laugh.

  • RichN95.
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    andyp said:

    Ineos rarely do announcements about renewals, they just quietly extend contracts.

    They aren't being linked with many riders either, so I'd imagine next year's line-up will be broadly similar to this year's. I think if they can hold on to Carlos Rodriguez then they'll consider they've done well.


    They also tend to announce signings once the season is over. Foss and Verona are the only two I've heard them linked to.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    Ineos rarely do announcements about renewals, they just quietly extend contracts.

    They aren't being linked with many riders either, so I'd imagine next year's line-up will be broadly similar to this year's. I think if they can hold on to Carlos Rodriguez then they'll consider they've done well.


    They also tend to announce signings once the season is over. Foss and Verona are the only two I've heard them linked to.
    I think Daniel Friebe said the Foss signing was definitely not happening on the Cycling Podcast last week.
  • roscoe
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    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:

    Ineos rarely do announcements about renewals, they just quietly extend contracts.

    They aren't being linked with many riders either, so I'd imagine next year's line-up will be broadly similar to this year's. I think if they can hold on to Carlos Rodriguez then they'll consider they've done well.


    They also tend to announce signings once the season is over. Foss and Verona are the only two I've heard them linked to.
    Quite often announce a few at the same time
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    andyp said:

    Now confirmed (was being discussed in the Sh*t Small Races thread earlier).

    Bit of an Irish thing going on at EF. They have also signed Archie Ryan who, if he can stay injury free, is an equally exciting prospect.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

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  • davidof
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    r0bh said:

    mrb123 said:

    Not much news from Ineos thus far.

    They've only got 15 riders contracted for 2024 according to Pro Cycling Stats
    Yes, they seem to be running the team down. Economy drive or having to lay off riders to pay Remco's massive transfer fee?
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  • daniel_b
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    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
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  • Dorset_Boy
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    daniel_b said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
    I struggle to see the positives in moving to Lidl Trek for someone interested in GC.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,450
    edited August 2023
    Dorset_Boy said:

    daniel_b said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
    I struggle to see the positives in moving to Lidl Trek for someone interested in GC.
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  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 532
    Sad to see Tao go, other than the Giro he won, this was probably his best year with the team.

    Going to be really interesting to see who stays and who's coming in.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    edited August 2023
    Dorset_Boy said:

    daniel_b said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
    I struggle to see the positives in moving to Lidl Trek for someone interested in GC.
    To my mind he is looking to be their stand out GC contender - most of their other riders who could have been GC contenders, are nearing the end of their careers, unless there is anyone really key I have forgotten.

    Maybe he just fancied a bit of a change, and especially whilst he is still young enough to command a decent salary.
    roscoe said:

    Sad to see Tao go, other than the Giro he won, this was probably his best year with the team.

    Going to be really interesting to see who stays and who's coming in.

    Agreed - if they genuinely sign no one of real distinction, it will be an even more anonymous season next year, or they will have to comprehensively change their focus.
    They need a real big hitter, and currently they have none - or none who are fighting fit and in form at any rate.
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  • kingstongraham
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    daniel_b said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    daniel_b said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
    I struggle to see the positives in moving to Lidl Trek for someone interested in GC.
    To my mind he is looking to be their stand out GC contender - most of their other riders who could have been GC contenders, are nearing the end of their careers, unless there is anyone really key I have forgotten.

    Maybe he just fancied a bit of a change, and especially whilst he is still young enough to command a decent salary.
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  • daniel_b
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    kingstongraham said:

    daniel_b said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    daniel_b said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Tao to Lidl Trek confirmed

    Have to say, I am surprised he has gone, wonder what his motivations or reasons were.
    I hope he excels, and really fulfills his potential - he could well be a GC contender again with the right support, but imho his main strengths will be in one week races.
    I struggle to see the positives in moving to Lidl Trek for someone interested in GC.
    To my mind he is looking to be their stand out GC contender - most of their other riders who could have been GC contenders, are nearing the end of their careers, unless there is anyone really key I have forgotten.

    Maybe he just fancied a bit of a change, and especially whilst he is still young enough to command a decent salary.
    Skjelmose.
    Yep fair play - but even so, there are 3 GT's per year, and multiple one week races, so I can't see how he won't be given ample opportunities.
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  • takethehighroad
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    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    takethehighroad said:

    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT

    He's only done two, so possibly a bit early to write him off.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
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    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT

    He's only done two, so possibly a bit early to write him off.
    He'll be 23 next month, so he's past it really
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  • kingstongraham
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    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT

    He's only done two, so possibly a bit early to write him off.
    He's just won his first wt week long stage race and his record stacks up pretty well against Geoghegan Hart at the same age.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    kingstongraham said:

    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT

    He's only done two, so possibly a bit early to write him off.
    He's just won his first wt week long stage race and his record stacks up pretty well against Geoghegan Hart at the same age.
    Is this a useful comparison? At the same age, Jonas Vingegaard had won almost nothing.
  • kingstongraham
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    DeadCalm said:

    kingstongraham said:

    andyp said:

    takethehighroad said:

    Are we still banging the Skjelmose as GT GC rider drum ?

    Simon Spillak used to do well in Swiss 1 week stage races but never got anywhere near in a GT

    He's only done two, so possibly a bit early to write him off.
    He's just won his first wt week long stage race and his record stacks up pretty well against Geoghegan Hart at the same age.
    Is this a useful comparison? At the same age, Jonas Vingegaard had won almost nothing.
    If the argument is that he can't progress from here, then that's also a useful comparison.

    Just don't know, do we? But he's still on the up.
  • andyp
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  • RichN95.
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    Apparently Contador has been on Eurosport saying it's an open secret than Evenepoel is going to Ineos next sesson
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    edited August 2023
    Find it super hard to believe that Lefevere will just take that lying down. Didn't they just extend the contract a few months ago?

    Maybe Ineos will just buy the entire team and merge them.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited August 2023
    m.r.m. said:

    Find it super hard to believe that Lefevere will just take that lying down. Didn't they just extend the contract a few months ago?

    Lefevere is 68. He may have one eye on retirement. He has two big assets to sell to get a little retirement bonus: Evenepoel's registration and a World Tour licence.
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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 325
    edited August 2023
    m.r.m. said:

    Find it super hard to believe that Lefevere will just take that lying down. Didn't they just extend the contract a few months ago?

    Maybe Ineos will just buy the entire team and merge them.

    This is the very logical step. Brailsford has forcefully denied it. Well technically denied there have been talks.

    It’d be cheaper than a transfer fee.



    This would also suggest a merger is more likely than just a signing

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