The actual I am watching the World Cup thread. No, non World Cup watchers please. Spoilers.
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drhaggis said:
I feel the current team is better than a last-16 team. But then, football is life.surrey_commuter said:
I think worldwide we are 8-16 so I would argue last 16 is playing to par and quarters is us doing welltailwindhome said:England have always been a last 8 team (imho).
Getting to the semis a sucess, getting knocked out in the round of 16 a failure
If they are going to win it they need to do what the women did - beat teams who are/have been better than they are
I'd say player for player in recent times you could make a good argument we are top 4.
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I would say 2 of France/Germany/Italy/Spain have been ahead of us in recent times plus one other in Europe like Belgium, Croatia, Portugal and then Brazil/Argentina.DeVlaeminck said:drhaggis said:
I feel the current team is better than a last-16 team. But then, football is life.surrey_commuter said:
I think worldwide we are 8-16 so I would argue last 16 is playing to par and quarters is us doing welltailwindhome said:England have always been a last 8 team (imho).
Getting to the semis a sucess, getting knocked out in the round of 16 a failure
If they are going to win it they need to do what the women did - beat teams who are/have been better than they are
I'd say player for player in recent times you could make a good argument we are top 4.
In this tournament I would say only France are measureably better than us and that is without half of their team.0 -
2 rapid goals from Japan stun Spain.
Costa Rica equalize against Germany.
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Costa rica in front. That would put Spain and Germany out!
Still 20 minutes to go mind so a lot can happen yet!0 -
Germany scores to put Spain back inDorset_Boy said:Costa rica in front. That would put Spain and Germany out!
Still 20 minutes to go mind so a lot can happen yet!“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Germany now in front, but still wouldn't be enough for Germany0
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As the commentators have identified.
Spain go through as it stands - but with the benefit of eliminating Germany- so long as they stick with a 2-1 loss
Mad group“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Spain need to realise that Germany are heading out and stick with the current result0
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Not if they want to top the groupDorset_Boy said:Spain need to realise that Germany are heading out and stick with the current result
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Japan win.0
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Germany win 4-2 but say good bye to Qatar1
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El Pais has a decent picture of the ball ITV are complaining about:
https://elpais.com/deportes/mundial-futbol/2022-12-01/japon-espana-partido-del-grupo-e-del-mundial-de-qatar-en-directo.html
EDIT: It's also on their home website.0 -
That's still in.drhaggis said:El Pais has a decent picture of the ball ITV are complaining about:
https://elpais.com/deportes/mundial-futbol/2022-12-01/japon-espana-partido-del-grupo-e-del-mundial-de-qatar-en-directo.html
EDIT: It's also on their home website.
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From that angle, I agree it seems the ball's in by the skin of its teeth. However, the argument is not showing VAR or replays. Which I'm not sure about, because I was cooking dinner.kingstongraham said:
That's still in.drhaggis said:El Pais has a decent picture of the ball ITV are complaining about:
https://elpais.com/deportes/mundial-futbol/2022-12-01/japon-espana-partido-del-grupo-e-del-mundial-de-qatar-en-directo.html
EDIT: It's also on their home website.0 -
I was only vaguely watching without sound, but couldn't work out why Germany's 4th wasn't off side.0
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From the routes to the final graphic ITV just showed, it looks like England need to get past France, then Spain then either Argentina or Brazil in the final“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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For the neutral/non-English fan, a France v Spain & Argentina v Brazil pair of semifinals would be classic World Cup“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1
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Looks like the overhead, flying camera has taken that one but don't think that is used for VAR decisions. By the letter of the law, it is in by the thickness of a Rizla paper in that photo..........but that photo isnt necessarily at the extremity of its path, it may well have gone further. I think the ITV pundits were wanting to see the footage that was used to make the VAR decision. Souness is on a mission with it.kingstongraham said:
That's still in.drhaggis said:El Pais has a decent picture of the ball ITV are complaining about:
https://elpais.com/deportes/mundial-futbol/2022-12-01/japon-espana-partido-del-grupo-e-del-mundial-de-qatar-en-directo.html
EDIT: It's also on their home website.Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"0 -
Xmas party here and as a Japanese HQ'd company it was quite lively tonight as we had the Japan v Spain game on the big screen. The Japanese expats were absolutely lathered by the end of it.Dorset_Boy said:Germany win 4-2 but say good bye to Qatar
Anyway, Auf Wiedersehen Germany"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Someone tell him this is it.crescent said:
Looks like the overhead, flying camera has taken that one but don't think that is used for VAR decisions. By the letter of the law, it is in by the thickness of a Rizla paper in that photo..........but that photo isnt necessarily at the extremity of its path, it may well have gone further. I think the ITV pundits were wanting to see the footage that was used to make the VAR decision. Souness is on a mission with it.kingstongraham said:
That's still in.drhaggis said:El Pais has a decent picture of the ball ITV are complaining about:
https://elpais.com/deportes/mundial-futbol/2022-12-01/japon-espana-partido-del-grupo-e-del-mundial-de-qatar-en-directo.html
EDIT: It's also on their home website.
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The image in the twitter link above is a good example of parallax error - the angle which you view something three dimensional is critical in establishing an accurate image. If you look at the needle on a pressure gauge, for instance, then you need to view the face perpendicularly, if you view it from several angles you will get very different readings.
I think the ITV point was that there must be a conclusive image that showed it was still in, because all initial evidence strongly suggested it was out, as the referee decided at the time.Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"0 -
Terrible punditry. It was a big moment and all those sour men could bang on about is a f@cking photo.
They have Hawkeye in the stadium and a sensor literally in the ball.0 -
Someone needs to tell Souness a ball is spherical. He is an absolute walloper. Proper, bad bell end.0
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Just saw the various camera angles of the Japan goal and the first one I was firmly in the ‘it has to be out’ camp as it looked so far over the line then I see others where it looks like the bottom of the ball is only just over the line and the rear of the ball is clearly in. It’s one area where you definitely need to trust the technology.0
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Pound for pound I don't think there's a team consistently performs as well as Croatia“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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What have you been smoking?tailwindhome said:Pound for pound I don't think there's a team consistently performs as well as Croatia
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Isn't that only within the goal though? All other line decisions are at the mercy of the officials.rick_chasey said:Terrible punditry. It was a big moment and all those sour men could bang on about is a f@cking photo.
They have Hawkeye in the stadium and a sensor literally in the ball.0