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  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 16,548
    edited 20 November
    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 16,548
    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?

    Easier not to think beyond dinner. Or just not to think.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642
    edited 21 November
    Thinking is overrated. Especially so by those who think.
    Really, does anyone on here really think their thoughts matter on a world scale?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 26,750
    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 7,004
    edited 21 November
    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    morstar said:

    If you put tackling covid against the fact we are potentially on track to make the planet uninhabitable in very short order…

    It’s deckchairs on the titanic stuff.

    We will just make Earth uninhabitable for Humans for a period. Earth will be fine and life will evolve again. It might not be after an asteroid strike though.
    Current risk is about once every 66 million years.
    OK, until then, what about a Zombie apocalypse?
    Fair enough. You should have said that in the first place.
    This has already been discussed and concluded.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    morstar said:

    If you put tackling covid against the fact we are potentially on track to make the planet uninhabitable in very short order…

    It’s deckchairs on the titanic stuff.

    We will just make Earth uninhabitable for Humans for a period. Earth will be fine and life will evolve again. It might not be after an asteroid strike though.
    Current risk is about once every 66 million years.
    OK, until then, what about a Zombie apocalypse?
    Fair enough. You should have said that in the first place.
    This has already been discussed and concluded.
    Oh yeah, quite right.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602
    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 7,004
    TO THE MOON!
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602
    pblakeney said:

    Thinking is overrated. Especially so by those who think.
    Really, does anyone on here really think their thoughts matter on a world scale?

    Does anyone on the world scale think their thoughts matter?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 7,004
    I mean, TO THE MARS!
  • focuszing723focuszing723 Posts: 7,004

  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642
    edited 21 November
    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    Thinking is overrated. Especially so by those who think.
    Really, does anyone on here really think their thoughts matter on a world scale?

    Does anyone on the world scale think their thoughts matter?
    Well, there are those who's thoughts do a load of damage to the planet.
    Then there are those who certainly think their thoughts matter.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642
    edited 21 November
    PS - We are not going anywhere. Not if you want a pleasant existence.
    Best to keep this planet pleasant.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 26,750
    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    I was thinking more of the 5 great extinction events, in each of which between 75% and 96% of all life was wiped out. All long before there were any apes, uppity or otherwise.

    https://ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    Earth isn't as benign as all that.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642
    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    I was thinking more of the 5 great extinction events, in each of which between 75% and 96% of all life was wiped out. All long before there were any apes, uppity or otherwise.

    https://ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    Earth isn't as benign as all that.
    The next extinction event may be caused by human activity.
    We can only hope that is averted and nothing else happens.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602
    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    I was thinking more of the 5 great extinction events, in each of which between 75% and 96% of all life was wiped out. All long before there were any apes, uppity or otherwise.

    https://ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    Earth isn't as benign as all that.
    The next extinction event may be caused by human activity.
    We can only hope that is averted and nothing else happens.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 70,666 Lives Here
    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    I was thinking more of the 5 great extinction events, in each of which between 75% and 96% of all life was wiped out. All long before there were any apes, uppity or otherwise.

    https://ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    Earth isn't as benign as all that.
    The next extinction event may be caused by human activity.
    We can only hope that is averted and nothing else happens.
    Not before you've died of more conventional causes. This sort of fatalism is so pathetic. "oh look it's so bad, I'm going to appear concerned, but I'll be f*cked if I do anything about it".
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602

    I mean, TO THE MARS!

    Yeah, that's a great place to live. Nice view of the Earth.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:



    I say this following my recent reading of a few books and with no real authority but it really tests the mind! (well, my mind anyway).


    I decided some while ago that my brain isn't even close to being big enough to comprehend the universe in any meaningful way, so I just let it get on with it while I think about much more mundane matters such as potholes and what I'm going to eat for dinner.
    We are replacing Creation with... err the big bang [creation] and even mapped out the end of the Universe in x billion years.
    Do you see the correlation?
    Humans are constrained by being born, living and then dying. I don't think anyone can think outside of that and I don't think anyone has a brain that can truly comprehend the 'universe'. So much of the BBT is based on multiple hypotheticals. Physics or any science holds little value when based on more than one hypothetical.
    After all, the light patterns, frequencies and back ground radiation we study are so very, very old. Think that a star out there that we see may not even exist anymore.

    The furthest man has been from the earth is a tiny distance and we are just presumptive, arrogant specs of dust.
    The hundred of millions that Space x has cost could have been far better spent on preserving this wonderful orb. Rockets are like internal combustion engines in that they are nothing revolutionary, so the latest firework is not a leap forward in technology and in it's current form, will never allow man to travel long distances.

    Watching the second space X rocket go bang is sheer poetry; a futile pursuit orchestrated by a silly man on his quest to be immortal.

    I'll stop there.


    Oh, I don't mind people wanting to find out - I found CERN fascinating with their quest to find stuff that particle theorists have, erm, theorised about... knowledge for the sake of knowledge, though maybe with some useful application (for instance, nuclear energy must have been born of that sort of quest). just that I know I'm too stupid to understand or care one way or another. I'm glad that there are people who have better & bigger brains that me (not least as the world would be screwed if there weren't).
    What makes you think it isn't screwed?
    It's coped with far worse than a few uppity apes.
    Sure. When al the uppity apes are dead than it just might recover.
    I was thinking more of the 5 great extinction events, in each of which between 75% and 96% of all life was wiped out. All long before there were any apes, uppity or otherwise.

    https://ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    Earth isn't as benign as all that.
    The next extinction event may be caused by human activity.
    We can only hope that is averted and nothing else happens.
    Not before you've died of more conventional causes. This sort of fatalism is so pathetic. "oh look it's so bad, I'm going to appear concerned, but I'll be f*cked if I do anything about it".
    Pardon? Hoping it is averted is a fairly positive outlook.
    Going to Mars is far more fatalistic.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 70,666 Lives Here
    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642

    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"

    Good for you!
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 12,316

    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"

    So, what are you doing?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 70,666 Lives Here
    edited 21 November
    orraloon said:

    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"

    So, what are you doing?
    Bet my entire career that the world gets serious about the energy transition. In my little corner of a corner of the market, I am exclusively focused on sustainability.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 50,602

    orraloon said:

    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"

    So, what are you doing?
    Bet my entire career that the world gets serious about the energy transition. In my little corner of a corner of the market, I am exclusively focused on sustainability. I spend a lot of time thinking about it when i'm on the plane...
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 70,666 Lives Here
    edited 21 November
    pinno said:

    orraloon said:

    Oh Musk is a pr!ck, but I hate this sort of concerned-but-won't-do-anything-about-it stuff.

    Throwing your arms up and going "pfft, isn't everyone else awful?"

    So, what are you doing?
    Bet my entire career that the world gets serious about the energy transition. In my little corner of a corner of the market, I am exclusively focused on sustainability. I spend a lot of time thinking about it when i'm on the plane...
    What can I say, I've actually put my money where my mouth is. Servicing companies which are doing something proactive around sustainability, the energy transition and other responsible behaviour. Even better, I've set this whole new area in my business up from scratch. So anything and everything we do in this space is down to me.

    That's better than 99% of people who sit there whining about the world ending because of human behaviour but not doing anything proactive about it themselves.

    Go wang on about all your various porsches and how everyone else is a hypocrite. That'll help.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 12,316
    Or... work on rewilding projects, I'll be doing more tree planting later this week, 'tis the season. Put PVs on the roof, export surplus to the grid, cut down mains gas usage. Etc. That's para mi.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 24,642
    I've cut my car usage down from of 25k miles year to under 10k. Plus cut home energy use. Repair instead of replace, recycle where necessary. Etc, etc...
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
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