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The Muskrat has been flogging off large chunks of 'his' Tesla shares. $40bn... 😳briantrumpet said:And still Tesla slides. Impressive, even for a genius.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63981767
Smells increasingly like another of these crypto ponzi schemes. Pity investment funds got hooked.
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The problem is, Mars is already dead before we even arrive. Having virtually no magnetosphere would also mean being irradiated, unless we all live underground.pblakeney said:
No. Humans are merely batteries in that documentary. That's the cover story. 😉ddraver said:
(Isn't that The Matrix Documentary...?)orraloon said:
You have seen the Terminator documentary series haven't you?focuszing723 said:
What, for say forty years tops? A grain of sand relative to humanities potential expansion.kingstongraham said:I'll take my chances here rather than somewhere that he's in charge of my oxygen supply thanks.
Personally I think it's futile anyway, AI will takeover, far easier to protect, replicate and expand. That's not humanity.
Humans are planet Earth organisms. This Is It.
Life on Mars? That's the masterplan? Fück up this planet then fück up another? Brilliant!
Having no animals, no blue skies, no trees, rivers, streams, beaches, sea, rain, snow. Not being able to breathe fresh air, feeling the wind and sun on your skin.
All the simple things we take for granted would be completely absent. Life on a dead planet.
Give it 20 years and the Martians would mistrust the Earthlings and vice versa and a new Cold War would start.😂0 -
It’s not a Ponzi but it probably is debt servicing for twitter.orraloon said:
The Muskrat has been flogging off large chunks of 'his' Tesla shares. $40bn... 😳briantrumpet said:And still Tesla slides. Impressive, even for a genius.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63981767
Smells increasingly like another of these crypto ponzi schemes. Pity investment funds got hooked.
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ny times
Why hasn't the government suggested that people cut costs at this difficult time by just not paying for stuff they are using?
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Looks like my assumption was wrong then, and that his Twitter gag is biting him big time. Massive time. The most massive bite in the World, ever.orraloon said:
The Muskrat has been flogging off large chunks of 'his' Tesla shares. $40bn... 😳The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yes, I was being derogatory rather than accurate, proper muskrat stylee 😉rick_chasey said:
It’s not a Ponzi but it probably is debt servicing for twitter.orraloon said:
The Muskrat has been flogging off large chunks of 'his' Tesla shares. $40bn... 😳briantrumpet said:And still Tesla slides. Impressive, even for a genius.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63981767
Smells increasingly like another of these crypto ponzi schemes. Pity investment funds got hooked.
He bought Tesla then puffed up the share price, been grossly over inflated for years, based on future potential / promises for a tech which has been straightforward enough for existing motor manufacturers to switch to and grow. So bubble, gamble, take the $ and run before the dawning: like crypto but at least some tangible real world things actually exist.
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The photography thread would be shite!masjer said:
The problem is, Mars is already dead before we even arrive. Having virtually no magnetosphere would also mean being irradiated, unless we all live underground.pblakeney said:
No. Humans are merely batteries in that documentary. That's the cover story. 😉ddraver said:
(Isn't that The Matrix Documentary...?)orraloon said:
You have seen the Terminator documentary series haven't you?focuszing723 said:
What, for say forty years tops? A grain of sand relative to humanities potential expansion.kingstongraham said:I'll take my chances here rather than somewhere that he's in charge of my oxygen supply thanks.
Personally I think it's futile anyway, AI will takeover, far easier to protect, replicate and expand. That's not humanity.
Humans are planet Earth organisms. This Is It.
Life on Mars? That's the masterplan? Fück up this planet then fück up another? Brilliant!
Having no animals, no blue skies, no trees, rivers, streams, beaches, sea, rain, snow. Not being able to breathe fresh air, feeling the wind and sun on your skin.
All the simple things we take for granted would be completely absent. Life on a dead planet.
Give it 20 years and the Martians would mistrust the Earthlings and vice versa and a new Cold War would start.😂0 -
Was his fortune really self-made or are there going to be some very angry, powerful people out there?0
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This was my point some time ago, the $44bn could end up looking like a deposit.rick_chasey said:
It’s not a Ponzi but it probably is debt servicing for twitter.orraloon said:
The Muskrat has been flogging off large chunks of 'his' Tesla shares. $40bn... 😳briantrumpet said:And still Tesla slides. Impressive, even for a genius.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63981767
Smells increasingly like another of these crypto ponzi schemes. Pity investment funds got hooked.
Most blue chip stock is owned by funds on a buy and hold basis which means the amount of liquid stock traded on a daily/weekly/monthly basis is surprisingly low. $1bn is less than 1% of the total value of Tesla but will be a much higher % of traded shares so will have a big impact. Then throw in the fact that it is the owner who is selling and that there is more to come and there is no good reason to see the slide halting soon.
A quick Google tells me the average daily turnover is 3 million shares and he sold 22 million in 3 days
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No, no I'm not. Elon Musk is the saviour of humanity and will be regarded as the greatest human by AI historians.rick_chasey said:Quite enjoying Focus slowly realising what most of us already have
Right, now get on with some work...0 -
Sounds quite like the series The Expansemasjer said:
The problem is, Mars is already dead before we even arrive. Having virtually no magnetosphere would also mean being irradiated, unless we all live underground.pblakeney said:
No. Humans are merely batteries in that documentary. That's the cover story. 😉ddraver said:
(Isn't that The Matrix Documentary...?)orraloon said:
You have seen the Terminator documentary series haven't you?focuszing723 said:
What, for say forty years tops? A grain of sand relative to humanities potential expansion.kingstongraham said:I'll take my chances here rather than somewhere that he's in charge of my oxygen supply thanks.
Personally I think it's futile anyway, AI will takeover, far easier to protect, replicate and expand. That's not humanity.
Humans are planet Earth organisms. This Is It.
Life on Mars? That's the masterplan? Fück up this planet then fück up another? Brilliant!
Having no animals, no blue skies, no trees, rivers, streams, beaches, sea, rain, snow. Not being able to breathe fresh air, feeling the wind and sun on your skin.
All the simple things we take for granted would be completely absent. Life on a dead planet.
Give it 20 years and the Martians would mistrust the Earthlings and vice versa and a new Cold War would start.😂- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I blame the Belters.pangolin said:
Sounds quite like the series The Expansemasjer said:
The problem is, Mars is already dead before we even arrive. Having virtually no magnetosphere would also mean being irradiated, unless we all live underground.pblakeney said:
No. Humans are merely batteries in that documentary. That's the cover story. 😉ddraver said:
(Isn't that The Matrix Documentary...?)orraloon said:
You have seen the Terminator documentary series haven't you?focuszing723 said:
What, for say forty years tops? A grain of sand relative to humanities potential expansion.kingstongraham said:I'll take my chances here rather than somewhere that he's in charge of my oxygen supply thanks.
Personally I think it's futile anyway, AI will takeover, far easier to protect, replicate and expand. That's not humanity.
Humans are planet Earth organisms. This Is It.
Life on Mars? That's the masterplan? Fück up this planet then fück up another? Brilliant!
Having no animals, no blue skies, no trees, rivers, streams, beaches, sea, rain, snow. Not being able to breathe fresh air, feeling the wind and sun on your skin.
All the simple things we take for granted would be completely absent. Life on a dead planet.
Give it 20 years and the Martians would mistrust the Earthlings and vice versa and a new Cold War would start.😂1 -
For those worrying about the coming of AI, relax. It can't work out what a pickaxe is.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Sure, but everyone has to agree it's a formality in say 100 - 1000 years, meh really pushing the starship out, say 10,000 years. Else, you're stuck in a cave making some wicker $h1t.rjsterry said:For those worrying about the coming of AI, relax. It can't work out what a pickaxe is.
Twitter still keeps getting quoted.
IR's,3.5%. Historic norms.0 -
What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.0
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Ought to look up cult-of-personality.focuszing723 said:
No, no I'm not. Elon Musk is the saviour of humanity and will be regarded as the greatest human by AI historians.rick_chasey said:Quite enjoying Focus slowly realising what most of us already have
Right, now get on with some work...0 -
Is that spelled with an L or an N? 😉rick_chasey said:
Ought to look up cult-of-personality.focuszing723 said:
No, no I'm not. Elon Musk is the saviour of humanity and will be regarded as the greatest human by AI historians.rick_chasey said:Quite enjoying Focus slowly realising what most of us already have
Right, now get on with some work...0 -
The eventual replacement of humanity, unless it shows pity or a connection whereby it's worth preserving.Jezyboy said:What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.
Look, on the simplest of levels. It can replicate, repair it's self, it can adapt to it's environment, back it's self up, evolve at rate we can't comprehend...
Will it fracture though and different adaptations fight for survival/supremacy?...Probably.
I would love to see what happens in 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 years time.
Fascinating.0 -
I mean, it can't. I'm sure one you're imagining can.focuszing723 said:
The eventual replacement of humanity, unless it shows pity or a connection whereby it's worth preserving.Jezyboy said:What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.
Look, on the simplest of levels. It can replicate, repair it's self, it can adapt to it's environment, back it's self up, evolve at rate we can't comprehend...
Will it fracture though and different adaptations fight for survival/supremacy?...Probably.
I would love to see what happens in 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 years time.
Fascinating.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Musk is right with regards expanding past Earth though. Isn't the salient goal in life to survive? Asteroid, nuclear war, climate...
Musk has kick started that race for space again, akin to the progression of the 1969 achievement. China's recent achievements will force it too.0 -
It will happen, look how meaningful computers have evolved in just fifty years.pangolin said:
I mean, it can't. I'm sure one you're imagining can.focuszing723 said:
The eventual replacement of humanity, unless it shows pity or a connection whereby it's worth preserving.Jezyboy said:What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.
Look, on the simplest of levels. It can replicate, repair it's self, it can adapt to it's environment, back it's self up, evolve at rate we can't comprehend...
Will it fracture though and different adaptations fight for survival/supremacy?...Probably.
I would love to see what happens in 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 years time.
Fascinating.
A matter of time, you Musk see that.1 -
Do you, or Musk, have any visions of what life on Mars would be like?focuszing723 said:Musk is right with regards expanding past Earth though. Isn't the salient goal in life to survive? Asteroid, nuclear war, climate...
Musk has kick started that race for space again, akin to the progression of the 1969 achievement. China's recent achievements will force it too.
I'm picturing a very boring life.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
there's been little evolution of computers, most are based on principles developed decades ago, progress has been in making things faster, smaller and using less power per operation, enabling various types of parallelism etc., nothing revolutionaryfocuszing723 said:
It will happen, look how meaningful computers have evolved in just fifty.pangolin said:
I mean, it can't. I'm sure one you're imagining can.focuszing723 said:
The eventual replacement of humanity, unless it shows pity or a connection whereby it's worth preserving.Jezyboy said:What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.
Look, on the simplest of levels. It can replicate, repair it's self, it can adapt to it's environment, back it's self up, evolve at rate we can't comprehend...
Will it fracture though and different adaptations fight for survival/supremacy?...Probably.
I would love to see what happens in 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 years time.
Fascinating.
A matter of time, you Musk see that.
they crunch the same binary data with the same set of operators, albeit faster and in greater volume
there is no 'ai' in the sense of actual 'intelligence'
current most effective so-called 'ai' systems are probably those based on reinforcement learning, deep learning etc.
they recapitulate, they calculate, they approximate, but they do not create, nor do they 'understand' what they do, there is no 'self' there to understand, the lights are on but there's no one home
almost all are based on binary logic, the output is a direct algorithmic consequence of the input (systems with an analogue or true random element can be fuzzier)
some can answer (i.e. look up, calculate, etc.) questions and perform tasks beyond humans, but so could the electromechanical computers of many decades ago, it's no big deal
no current computer can design, create or repair itself (n+1 redundancy, ecc etc. aren't repair, they are fault tolerance), let alone arrange provision of power, comms and environmental protection, and there's still not even a hint of self-awareness
will an actual ai ever arise? perhaps one day, at the moment we don't understand how our own 'self' emerges, it's certainly not something we know how to replicate
if a genuine capable 'ai' did ever emerge, evolution tells us that we should destroy it before it gains the ability to destroy us (which it would certainly understand)
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I’m going to assume this is a bit.focuszing723 said:
No, no I'm not. Elon Musk is the saviour of humanity and will be regarded as the greatest human by AI historians.rick_chasey said:Quite enjoying Focus slowly realising what most of us already have
Right, now get on with some work...0 -
It doesn't matter, it's another instance of humaniy and eventually AI if the $h1t hits the fan on Earth.pblakeney said:
Do you, or Musk, have any visions of what life on Mars would be like?focuszing723 said:Musk is right with regards expanding past Earth though. Isn't the salient goal in life to survive? Asteroid, nuclear war, climate...
Musk has kick started that race for space again, akin to the progression of the 1969 achievement. China's recent achievements will force it too.
I'm picturing a very boring life.0 -
The sh!t'll hit the fan before AI is developed to that point. It's not for me and I won't be around in any case. Who cares about the existence of AI past humankind?focuszing723 said:
It doesn't matter, it's another instance of humaniy and eventually AI if the $h1t hits the fan on Earth.pblakeney said:
Do you, or Musk, have any visions of what life on Mars would be like?focuszing723 said:Musk is right with regards expanding past Earth though. Isn't the salient goal in life to survive? Asteroid, nuclear war, climate...
Musk has kick started that race for space again, akin to the progression of the 1969 achievement. China's recent achievements will force it too.
I'm picturing a very boring life.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I don't care either I'd just love to see how things evolve in the near/distant future and along with that, the bigger questions and answers to why/how we have had the fantastic gift of life/existence and other $h1t.
Life/existence is so precious, yet it can be seen as a slog.0 -
It can do none of these things. Not even close.focuszing723 said:
The eventual replacement of humanity, unless it shows pity or a connection whereby it's worth preserving.Jezyboy said:What level of ai though? Usable self driving cars or the barmy idea of ai government.
Look, on the simplest of levels. It can replicate, repair it's self, it can adapt to it's environment, back it's self up, evolve at rate we can't comprehend...
Will it fracture though and different adaptations fight for survival/supremacy?...Probably.
I would love to see what happens in 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 years time.
Fascinating.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0
