Cars, cars, cars...

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    It is interesting that people who spend way more than the average person on a bicycle that performs 0.1% better than one costing 75% less sneer at people who like or aspire to having a nice car.

    There are people that sneer at others having a nice car and I agree that's not really an attractive trait - nobody on here has really been sneering though it's just that different people aspire to different things.

    Speaking for myself if I see a Ferrari or a nice classic or something I will check it out - but I wouldn't really want to own it (well maybe some classics) even if the money wasn't really an object.
    I do assess other people's cars on (1) a could I afford it basis, (2) a could I afford it if I really wanted it basis and (3) a is it so old I would lose my legs or get a pierced sternum in an accident basis.

    The "should I buy one" assessment is entirely separate and more modest.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    edited October 2021
    ddraver said:

    I have to refresh my CPC and most of the rest of the pupils are returning truck drivers which is interesting.

    Unfortunately, we have now got on to the cyclist debate which is going exactly how we might expect it to... 🙄

    Yeesh, now we're onto the new road heirachy plans and mandatory 2m gaps when overtaking cyclists. Quite glad I'm not in the classroom...

    (it's really rather dull, hence why I'm here)

    Edit - Dutch Reach not going down well either

    Edit Edit - New tailgating/safety gap jumper rules going down much better tho

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  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,495

    Seen this beast at a view shows. RR Merlin engine in it. Makes a hell of a racket and handles like a tanker apparently, but is still a cool thing
  • harry-s
    harry-s Posts: 295
    It's about more than just performance and track days though.

    I spent a lot of time and money restoring an old 60's car, performance was in mind when I did it, but I also wanted to be able to get the family in. The kids did thousands of miles in it when they were growing up, touring in France, camping holidays etc and they are great memories for all of us. The noise, the smell, the odd breakdown. The car was as part of the holiday as everything else.

    They might remember and value those times more than they remember the house we were living in at the time.

    Not possible in an EV, either...
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    I'm with James May that the most fun car (bike - of all types) to drive is the one you can drive at it's limit...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ddraver said:

    I'm with James May that the most fun car (bike - of all types) to drive is the one you can drive at it's limit...

    which is where we all come back full circle to the MIGHTY AYGO OF POWER AND JOY.

    And yet again MF is correct.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.

    You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!

    I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
    I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.
    how does insurance work for that?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.

    You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!

    I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
    I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.
    how does insurance work for that?
    Take your cheque book. 😉
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    You can get track day insurance - loads of people do it. its a common thang.

    for places like the 'Ring its a no brainer.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    You can get track day insurance - loads of people do it. its a common thang.

    for places like the 'Ring its a no brainer.

    Say that hypothetically one's tyres we're nearing the end of their life and one might need to replace them anyway.

    Hypothetically how much would track day insurance cost, and would I need racing seatbelts?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    Oh shit I said I. I gave it away. Buggeration.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    edited October 2021
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    That's annoyingly affordable. Think I might need to come through the current PCP deal before I do that though.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    You can get track day insurance - loads of people do it. its a common thang.

    for places like the 'Ring its a no brainer.

    Say that hypothetically one's tyres we're nearing the end of their life and one might need to replace them anyway.

    Hypothetically how much would track day insurance cost, and would I need racing seatbelts?
    don't know. 'phone an insurance company.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:
    someone like Adrian Flux who specialise in fast bikes 'n' cars will probably do it as well but good links - grazie

    also see No Limits amingst a gazillion others offering track days. Local motorsport clubs do "run what ya brung" days for cars and 'bikes, Santa Pod and Brighton for 1/4 mile sprints amomgst others.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or grow some mahoooosif balls and do it properly - none of this namby pampy boring track racing.

    Real roads is where its at. Proper racing by proper blokes n burds.

    everything else is totally dull, boring, staid, vanilla grey and yaaaawwwn by comparison

    isle of man, scarborough, coc o' the north, irish roads, Macau......

    par example

    https://youtu.be/KFJSVtsckyI
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    ddraver said:
    My "SUV" has lower emissions than a 1.6 Golf.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    We used to take the motosickles away and do the Paris ring road (peripherique) run. First gen R1s, SRAD 750s, tuned to the nuts two stroke supermotos....

    now that was fun..... still not sure how we all didn't die.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    Closed roads, innit.
    Those guys are utterly, utterly mental though.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    pblakeney said:

    Closed roads, innit.
    Those guys are utterly, utterly mental though.

    They put hay bales next to the corners of any houses. Perfectly safe.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    pblakeney said:

    Closed roads, innit.
    Those guys are utterly, utterly mental though.

    They put hay bales next to the corners of any houses. Perfectly safe.
    yup. this.

    occasionally they will paint some red and white lines on the pavement as well

    bunch o' wimps.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Macau - no run off, just concrete walls, armco and 20 feet high metal fences.

    famous 'cos a) its mad and b) they rub shoulders along the walls for the qickest lines

    https://youtu.be/Bgxe0vPCU9o
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    elbowloh said:

    ddraver said:
    My "SUV" has lower emissions than a 1.6 Golf.
    we don't call SUVs "child killers" because of their emissions....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    And all done at an average speed roughly the same as the maximum speed I have ever ridden a bike at. Nutters
    MattFalle said:

    or grow some mahoooosif balls and do it properly - none of this namby pampy boring track racing.

    Real roads is where its at. Proper racing by proper blokes n burds.

    everything else is totally dull, boring, staid, vanilla grey and yaaaawwwn by comparison

    isle of man, scarborough, coc o' the north, irish roads, Macau......

    par example

    https://youtu.be/KFJSVtsckyI

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited October 2021
    with no egos, corporate sponsorshit, any of that.

    more charisma and talent in McPint's little toe than the whole if the F1 grid

    even the bloke/bird coming last has more mahoooosif ovaries/testicles than 99%of the F1 grid.

    utterly barking mad.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.

    You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!

    I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
    I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.
    how does insurance work for that?
    Used to insure for specific track days through a specialist insurance firm, as clearly your normal policy doesn't cover that sort of thing.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    A good car can do track days when needed and can be great fun on the road when the opportunity arises. Mind you, I enjoy mine even when I'm just rumbling round the burbs. Noise, sense of occasion and all that.

    You don't wanna be doing a track day in your own car though!

    I guess I'm boring and figure the temptation to gas it on a public road in a car is probably something we don't need. Been on the receiving end of that on my bike too often.
    I used to do just that - own car for trackdays. As did a lot of people. Turning up to the events where cars are provided or you rent a track car is OK for the occasional event but if its a regular thing/hobby as it was for me, having your own made sense.
    how does insurance work for that?
    Used to insure for specific track days through a specialist insurance firm, as clearly your normal policy doesn't cover that sort of thing.
    back in the eay days of track days there used to be lots of 1 vehicle RTCs with no witnesses just a few miles from tracks the day after track days.

    must have been coincedence
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    ddraver said:
    My "SUV" has lower emissions than a 1.6 Golf.
    we don't call SUVs "child killers" because of their emissions....
    a) that's not what the tweet was about though was it

    b) we don't call them child killers full stop.

    c) it's idiot drivers that are child killers I'd argue
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Yes, we do call them child killers.

    those who drive SUVs generally don't because they shelled out a load of cash for something useless.

    they are like the worst possible combo if all cars forced into something marketing hyperbole, naivity and ego has convinced people to buy.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.