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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301

    Stainless steel is pretty much the worst material to be moving to for body panels, because it's expensive, difficult to work with, almost impossible to repair and heavy.


    On the plus side, it can be recycled into stylish cutlery when Musk has worked that out for himself.
    They might be able to make some of it into parts for automotive chassis. That's not a terrible idea because it's strong and doesn't rust.
    A modern monocoque chassis provides a lot of the external panels. That is, unless you work in an advisory capacity for Morgan, Packhard or Scania.


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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    edited December 2023

    Yes, but but but...

    The innovations!

    The Cybertruck, 48v system, ethernet, fast bus, stainless steel ding resistance.

    Stainless steel is difficult to work with especially mass production so it explains the angular DeLoreanness. Stainless steel is required for the production of Starship/s so it makes sense to power bulk buy/manufacturer to reduce costs. If they can start to shape it a bit more in the future it's a humdinger.

    How about just not making it out of stainless steel. They could make it out of bamboo too but I foresee problems.
    The Starship though made out of stainless steel, it made sense to get strong on it.
    • Production
    • Cost reduction of scale
    • Manufacturing
    • Using it
    • working with it.
    It might filter through a bit for bike frames (Reynolds 953/931).
  • Ohhh, Gawwwd. A Tesla stainless steel road bike.
  • That would be like a lifetime of Christmases.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462

    Ohhh, Gawwwd. A Tesla stainless steel road bike.

    I suspect Musk would question why bikes have always had round wheels and make it with square ones then have a public meltdown at people questioning his decision.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    edited December 2023

    Ohhh, Gawwwd. A Tesla stainless steel road bike.

    Yes, that would be great Focuszing. I'd love one of those.
    Everybody would, if they believe in greatness. Get away from all that sun melting/cracking carbon rubbish.
  • Thanks for flagging me. It gives empathy for the struggles Musk has to improve Humanity, Earth and the Universe.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    Who tf flagged that post?!
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301
    Hang on... 'Pross the second' !?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited February 2

    with a family of 4 my 1 litre ve polo is no longer practical.

    I also have a bit more money, but the parking on my street is very tight so I’m eying up some larger hatchbacks.

    ive been whiling away the stressful feeding hours looking at vw golf’s or equivalent and I have ended up down a rabbit hole of hot hatches.

    most of the ones in my arbitrary budget are around 60,000 miles. Can someone please persuade me that a Seat Leon Cupra or a Peugeot 308 sport is not the way forward please.

    The Cupra especially. Looks bang average but then 0-60 is c.5.5s

  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,783

    Seat Leon is a Golf in a different dress.

    I'd go as big as you can. Kids (and sometimes wives) only get bigger.

    Skoda Octavia make good family cars.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462

    Careful, someone will be along to acuse you of hypocrisy!

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,354
    edited February 2

    They're a size up from a Polo so good, but one size bigger (I.e. Mondeo size) might be even better for a family of 4.

    Also I like it that you're starting to appreciate performance cars. Spread the word amongst the heathens of Cake Stop 🙂

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Ah the spots on my road can’t accommodate an Octavia.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,354

    OK, if the spots are specific size then fair enough, I was assuming it was a case of 'find a gap of the right size and park in it'. The ones you mention are decent choices: I'd go with the Cupra.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited February 2

    id say 1/5 times I park im barely getting my polo in so that’d be super annoying with a proper estate.

    Hence the need for a hatchback.

    Polo is so narrow with 2 car seats there’s basically no middle seat.

  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,783

    The Octavia isn't an just an estate although it can come in that flavour too. I have the Hatch version.

    No standard car, even an Octavia leaves enough space on the back seat with two car seats fitted to sit a third person. If you want five in the car then fit one child seat in the front and one in the back and you can squeeze two adults in the back. Just. If you want to get 5 in a car with 2 child seats then you need a Citroen C4 or similar.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Octavia is a decent bit bigger - there’s one on a side street and he really struggles to park it.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Also, how many miles on the clock is too much?


    60,000 max?


    I do about 5,000 a year

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Ha thanks I want to be put off a hot hatch not encouraged!

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307

    I tend to keep my cars until they are financial write-offs. That has never happened before 150k so that would give you 18 years worth. That help? Rust would probably be the biggest fear past 15 years.

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited February 2

    Don’t you need to fork out a few grand at around 80,000-100,000 for replacement engine parts etc?

    Eg I read the ford focus eco engines have a design flaw where the cambelt sits in the engine oil so as it degrades towards the end of its life you get bits of belt flowing around the engine fecking sh!t up

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,317

    I see that Paris is having a vote as to whether to charge punitive parking fees for non-Parisians' SUVs (well, anything over 1.6t for ICE & hybrid, and 2t for electric).

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,354

    Sounds like you're asking the wrong question - nothing wrong with hot hatches.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307

    A few grand? 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, you will need a new belt but only mugs go to main dealers obs.

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462

    I don't think it matters that much anymore to be honest. Mine has nearly 200k on it, the company cars I had went back after 2.5 or 3 years with around 80-100k on the clock and I have happily bought most of them given the chance as they'd been serviced when they were supposed to be and well looked after. Biggest issue with something like a Cupra might be how the previous owner drove it!

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301

    Pity there's no edit function as the first 3 words would have been sufficient.

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,301

    This is wrong.

    However, all Ford engines have camshafts that have interference fit cam lobes. Dunno why*. If you labour the engine, you can shift them on the shaft and bend the valve train up and/or damage pistons.

    *Apart from Koenigsegg, they are almost universally single piece cast.

    Before changing the engine, my Porker had done 172,000 miles. Could have rebuilt it but bought a whole car for not a lot as a donor and the engine had 71k on the clock and was in perfect condition.172k isn't a lot so it was obviously badly serviced/used as my friends company JMG Porsche in Wimbourne, is servicing many Porkers with 300k on the clock. I see tw@ts on Youtube saying that they have a 'high mileage 911'... with 32k on the clock. Shows you the sort of idiot clientele that buy the things.

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