Cars, cars, cars...

ddraver

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

focuszing723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS54AJSadT4
Clear cut, the best vehicle is an old Range Rover.

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

First.Aspect

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

focuszing723

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

With nearly 400,000 cars destroyed which were more than a decade old in 2009, it took out an entire generation which would now be 20-30 year old classics. “It certainly drove up prices of those classic cars which were left behind,” said Brewer.

Think of all those cars needlessly destroyed during the scrappage scheme as a result of the financial crisis (boost the car industry). That's was a colossal waste.

Pross

I'm struggling to see a late 90s Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra as ever being a classic car. Most were destroyed because they were polluting piles of sh*t and they'd have been scrapped within a year or two anyway.

Stevo_666

Pross said:

I'm struggling to see a late 90s Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra as ever being a classic car. Most were destroyed because they were polluting piles of sh*t and they'd have been scrapped within a year or two anyway.

You should be telling ddraver that...

First.Aspect

Pross said:

I'm struggling to see a late 90s Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra as ever being a classic car. Most were destroyed because they were polluting piles of sh*t and they'd have been scrapped within a year or two anyway.

You would be surprised. Thinks like a Maestro are now considered classic cars, and we know what piles of shjt they were. Give it time. Particularly for the original Focus.

Stevo_666

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

There are also companies doing quite nicely making electric versions of old classics.

Pross

First.Aspect said:

Pross said:

I'm struggling to see a late 90s Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra as ever being a classic car. Most were destroyed because they were polluting piles of sh*t and they'd have been scrapped within a year or two anyway.

You would be surprised. Thinks like a Maestro are now considered classic cars, and we know what piles of shjt they were. Give it time. Particularly for the original Focus.

I think the fact that so few survived more than 10 years is the main reason there. 20 year old Ford Focuses aren't rare enough or have enough of a cult following other than in certain version like the RS Cosworth I wouldn't have though.

Stevo_666

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

There are also companies doing quite nicely making electric versions of old classics.

Pretty niche. I'd rather have the real thing.

focuszing723

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

I don't think they will be, there will always be some new vehicles with synthetic fuels. How can there be an objection to that?

Stevo_666

focuszing723 said:

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

I don't think they will be, there will always be some new vehicles with synthetic fuels. How can there be an objection to that?

I'm all for synthetic fuels if they allow us to keep the internal combustion engine. However I think that the scale of synthetic production needed at a viable cost for this to be anywhere near full replacement will not happen before the ban comes in. It will have its part to play, sure and longer term I think will grow as there is clearly a desire to keep the ICE.

focuszing723

Stevo_666 said:

focuszing723 said:

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

I don't think they will be, there will always be some new vehicles with synthetic fuels. How can there be an objection to that?

I'm all for synthetic fuels if they allow us to keep the internal combustion engine. However I think that the scale of synthetic production needed at a viable cost for this to be anywhere near full replacement will not happen before the ban comes in. It will have its part to play, sure and longer term I think will grow as there is clearly a desire to keep the ICE.

Yeah, I don't think we will see an end to a glorious v8 v10 v12 though.

ddraver

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

This...

Having worked for the oil and ski industries, eco warrier is certainly a new one... 🤣

ddraver

Would you buy a Lidl impact driver?

I only really need it to change the front sprocket on the m'bikes but will I get more use out of a bloody big breaker bar... 🤔

ddraver

F'kin Wars and military coups have started in places I found oil...

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

This...

Having worked for the oil and ski industries, eco warrier is certainly a new one... 🤣

Was only recently I saw you extolling the environmental virtues of bars of soap over shower gel, so figured you were a bit of a tree hugger. Maybe not when it comes to running polluting old bangers?

veronese68

ddraver said:

Would you buy a Lidl impact driver?

I only really need it to change the front sprocket on the m'bikes but will I get more use out of a bloody big breaker bar... 🤔

Big breaker bar will be more useful generally, for that an impact driver might work better if there's not enough compression to stop the engine turning over when you put it in gear to try and undo the nut. Various other tricks can be useful at that point, but an impact driver usually does the job without resorting to Heath Robinson techniques.

veronese68

Pross said:

Stevo_666 said:

And a lot more cars will become classics once the sale of ICE cars is banned. Another good reason to hang on to them, could be a decent investment.

There are also companies doing quite nicely making electric versions of old classics.

https://rbwevcars.com/models-rbw-roadster-gt/
Although that's a new car, not a reworking of an old one. Still very much a niche product, always will be at that price.

ddraver

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

This...

Having worked for the oil and ski industries, eco warrier is certainly a new one... 🤣

Was only recently I saw you extolling the environmental virtues of bars of soap over shower gel, so figured you were a bit of a tree hugger. Maybe not when it comes to running polluting old bangers?

Are you actually trying to wind me up over using bars of soap..?

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

This...

Having worked for the oil and ski industries, eco warrier is certainly a new one... 🤣

Was only recently I saw you extolling the environmental virtues of bars of soap over shower gel, so figured you were a bit of a tree hugger. Maybe not when it comes to running polluting old bangers?

Are you actually trying to wind me up over using bars of soap..?

No, I'm telling you why I thought you were an eco warrior.

As you were asking me a perfectly reasonable question, should I post a picture of a Sea Lion at this point?

ddraver

Whatever makes you happy...

pblakeney

Pross said:

I'm struggling to see a late 90s Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra as ever being a classic car. Most were destroyed because they were polluting piles of sh*t and they'd have been scrapped within a year or two anyway.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148513640?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&include-delivery-option=on&make=Ford&model=Escort&page=1&postcode=DE24 8bj&price-from=60000&fromsra

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

Whatever makes you happy...

Clearly posting pictures of Sea Lions for no good reason makes you happy, so maybe I should give it a go

pblakeney

P.S. - Something I learned* today.

Climate change is all Henry Ford's fault. Electric cars were all the rage until he provided the cheaper version, Model T.

*Learned as in it was on the internet. May not be true.

ddraver

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Whatever makes you happy...

Clearly posting pictures of Sea Lions for no good reason makes you happy, so maybe I should give it a go

Ah but unfortunately we all know the reason...

laurentian

pblakeney said:

P.S. - Something I learned* today.

Climate change is all Henry Ford's fault. Electric cars were all the rage until he provided the cheaper version, Model T.

*Learned as in it was on the internet. May not be true.

This was mentioned on BBC 2 earlier in the week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001f7y1/the-secret-genius-of-modern-life-series-1-4-electric-car

rjsterry

focuszing723 said:

First.Aspect said:

Stevo_666 said:

ddraver said:

Yeah, thanks all. The quote for repair was about 800 but as Pinno says, the reality is that next year it would have required another 800 and so on and so on. I'm not really that interested in mechanical things (the bonneville being the exception that proves the rule), but that little car had wormed its way into my heart. It's a shame because it really is great around the country lanes and still drives fine.

It's being picked up by a scrap yard tomorrow. (There are a wealth of price comparison sites that will check for you these days. Good signs that metal recycling is thriving...

A summer on the (motor)bikes and then will start looking for something that will hopefully go on for another 20 years.

Surely an eco warrior like you should be looking for an electric car. Or are they too expensive for you?

With the current UK energy mix, is probably still more environmentally sensible to keep using the old car.

With nearly 400,000 cars destroyed which were more than a decade old in 2009, it took out an entire generation which would now be 20-30 year old classics. “It certainly drove up prices of those classic cars which were left behind,” said Brewer.

Think of all those cars needlessly destroyed during the scrappage scheme as a result of the financial crisis (boost the car industry). That's was a colossal waste.

Cars must be one of the most recycled consumer products. Pinno may have a better idea.