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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,813
    Money certainly doesn't buy taste 🤣
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312

    It’s the body that will cost the big cash. Even US imports will have rot in them and panels are as rare as the cars!
    Engines aren’t astronomical- most used the late VW Type 4 engine which is much more expensive to repair than the usual Type 1 engine but not mega money.
    The 914/6 was a true Porsche engine that I presume will bankrupt most people.
    I think they say when considering if you can afford a Porsche, the real question is ‘can you afford two’ ?

    They didn't produce many with the flat 6 engine and curiously, 2 with a V8 !
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    I'd love to have a go in the GMA T.50 - spiritual successor to the McLaren F1. Weighs under a ton and has a NA 4l v12 that revs to 11,500 rpm and kicks out 664bhp. Something else.
    https://evo.co.uk/gma/t50


    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,149
    edited April 2023

    Yep. That Cosworth V12 is something special. My favourite sounding engines are V10's though. Such a great sound in the wild. I think the T.33 targa looks better though, Just a bit more svelte.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGCQMlWrens
    In my advanced superior opinion, the R8 v10 is going increase in value, Audi reliability and that glorious engine.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    edited April 2023


    Yep. That Cosworth V12 is something special. My favourite sounding engines are V10's though. Such a great sound in the wild. I think the T.33 targa looks better though, Just a bit more svelte.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGCQMlWrens
    In my advanced superior opinion, the R8 v10 is going increase in value, Audi reliability and that glorious engine.

    Quite likely. I'm hoping certain good sounding V8s will go up in value as the milk float revolution gathers pace.
    https://youtu.be/MvImiMFKIyM
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Bugatti Bolide looks rather good...


    Bit on the pricey side though.
    https://evo.co.uk/bugatti/203209/eu4m-bugatti-bolide-hits-the-circuit-ahead-of-2024-deliveries
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,149
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYgjELOzp0
    I do like a roof duct, especially if it's connected for that induction sound. I still can't believe with the collaboration with Rimac they will all be EV's now. I guess that could change and should with synthetic fuels.
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 678
    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Episodes like that are a subtle hint that it's time to get a better car.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    Stevo_666 said:

    Episodes like that are a subtle hint that it's time to get a better car.


    Is there a correlation between reliability, longevity and cost when it comes to cars, then? Because I really haven't noticed.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383

    Stevo_666 said:

    Episodes like that are a subtle hint that it's time to get a better car.


    Is there a correlation between reliability, longevity and cost when it comes to cars, then? Because I really haven't noticed.
    Nope, you just misunderstood.

    The tendency for stuff to go wrong is usually a function of age and mileage (assuming normal maintenance), so once the repair bills start mounting then time to get something better, I.e. less prone to go wrong
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320
    edited April 2023
    Hot exhaust and dry grass. Not a good combination.

    Edit. Just watched the video. WTF?!!! W as in why.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    My thoughts as well. I could have understood it if it was Pinno trying to get the insurance on one of his old jalopys.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    pblakeney said:

    Hot exhaust and dry grass. Not a good combination.

    Edit. Just watched the video. WTF?!!! W as in why.

    He was fed up of the unreliability and poor customer service.
    There was a string of vids from purchase through to setting it alight.
    I'll try and find them.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320
    ddraver said:


    ...
    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...

    I got mine done at Halfords when they had an offer on.
    More importantly, it looked surprisingly easy. Youtube is probably your friend.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Munsford0
    Munsford0 Posts: 678
    definitely not wasting money on regassing the A/C in our Focus, I'll just moan about how hot it is come the summer. I double the value of the car each time I fill the tank with petrol...
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Munsford0 said:

    definitely not wasting money on regassing the A/C in our Focus, I'll just moan about how hot it is come the summer. I double the value of the car each time I fill the tank with petrol...

    A re-gas is worth it given how warm it can get over the summer months, regardless of how much or little your car is worth. IMO.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Oh I'm not paying anything to repair it. Just to see if it works with actual gas in it...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    Put some Stans no tubes in there. That'll sort any leaks.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312

    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
    [Pedant mode: ON] Those things are shyte hence Nitrogen testing.
    [Pedant mode: OFF]
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
    [Pedant mode: ON] Those things are shyte hence Nitrogen testing.
    [Pedant mode: OFF]
    Isn't that what I said?

    If you think about it, they are both nitrogen testing, more or less, just based on flow in different directions. Theres nothing at all wrong with testing the vacuum (dont get pedantic about thenterminology, because you will lose), but the biggest delta is probably about .8 atm, and it's only done over a very short period, so that Kwikfit can get on and install some tyres to give someone a wheel wobble.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    edited April 2023

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
    [Pedant mode: ON] Those things are shyte hence Nitrogen testing.
    [Pedant mode: OFF]
    Isn't that what I said?

    If you think about it, they are both nitrogen testing, more or less, just based on flow in different directions. Theres nothing at all wrong with testing the vacuum (dont get pedantic about thenterminology, because you will lose), but the biggest delta is probably about .8 atm, and it's only done over a very short period, so that Kwikfit can get on and install some tyres to give someone a wheel wobble.
    8atm for a Fraud Crocus? ROFL. It would go pop! They run @ max 50psi.

    Nitrogen gas possesses numerous physical qualities that make it uniquely suited to leak testing. It is an inert gas, which is hardly reactive under normal industrial conditions. Gaseous nitrogen also prevents oxidative/corrosive reactions by eliminating water vapor and oxygen from within sensitive equipment.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
    [Pedant mode: ON] Those things are shyte hence Nitrogen testing.
    [Pedant mode: OFF]
    Isn't that what I said?

    If you think about it, they are both nitrogen testing, more or less, just based on flow in different directions. Theres nothing at all wrong with testing the vacuum (dont get pedantic about thenterminology, because you will lose), but the biggest delta is probably about .8 atm, and it's only done over a very short period, so that Kwikfit can get on and install some tyres to give someone a wheel wobble.
    8atm for a Fraud Crocus? ROFL. It would go pop! They run @ max 50psi.

    Nitrogen gas possesses numerous physical qualities that make it uniquely suited to leak testing. It is an inert gas, which is hardly reactive under normal industrial conditions. Gaseous nitrogen also prevents oxidative/corrosive reactions by eliminating water vapor and oxygen from within sensitive equipment.
    Gosh. Really?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    ddraver said:

    Munsford0 said:

    ddraver said:

    So my old focus has had a bad week.

    After leaking coolant it had the plastic (!) Thermostat cover replaced, 2 drives later and the next bit of plastic spectacularly cracked and threw coolant all over the engine.

    My tentative diagnosis is that there is therefore something blocking the system. That is causing the pressure to build up too high for the plastic (!) bits

    Does this seem likely and if so, how catastrophic is it likely to be..?

    It's currently parked outside a garage waiting for it to open tomorrow but I'd like an idea of whether or not it's worth spending cash on...

    (As said, up to now, it's been fine. No other problems at all)

    Come on, what was the outcome with the old Focus? Trying to coax another year from ours. I remember faffing with the thermostat on the Orion which preceded the Focus, and cracked the plastic housing when I bolted the cover back on. Dumped half the coolant on the drive. Didn't take much effort to crack it so I've always been wary of anything plastic since
    Bit frustrating but all fine. Garage replaced the plastic (!) hose that runs across the top of the radiator and since then, all has been well. Back to trusting it for long trips and commutes again but as the temperatures rise the pleasure of riding the motorbike rises...

    I guess the problem was with the part of the system that bypasses the radiator (i.e. when the thermostat is closed) which is why it never seemed to be affected too badly. Eventually it would've run out I s'pose

    Next question is do I take it to the dodgy garage to have the AC regassed...
    If they know what they are doing, they can remove all the refrigerant and then test it with compressed nitrogen for leaks instead of simply replacing the refrigerant. This will give you an idea whether the system needs new parts/seals/condenser(s) etc.

    It's better to test it first then you know what you are looking at price wise. Then you can make the decision.

    I was quoted £1700 on my 911. I bought 2 highly rated aftermarket condensers and a seal kit and did most of the job myself for £380 and the local garage tested it with nitrogen then refilled the system for £90.
    I wouldn't go the DIY route if you've had no experience of it.

    Most places use machines with an automatic leak tester. But this isn't sensitive enough to detect a leak that will discharge the coolant over a few weeks, be warned.
    [Pedant mode: ON] Those things are shyte hence Nitrogen testing.
    [Pedant mode: OFF]
    Isn't that what I said?

    If you think about it, they are both nitrogen testing, more or less, just based on flow in different directions. Theres nothing at all wrong with testing the vacuum (dont get pedantic about thenterminology, because you will lose), but the biggest delta is probably about .8 atm, and it's only done over a very short period, so that Kwikfit can get on and install some tyres to give someone a wheel wobble.
    8atm for a Fraud Crocus? ROFL. It would go pop! They run @ max 50psi.

    Nitrogen gas possesses numerous physical qualities that make it uniquely suited to leak testing. It is an inert gas, which is hardly reactive under normal industrial conditions. Gaseous nitrogen also prevents oxidative/corrosive reactions by eliminating water vapor and oxygen from within sensitive equipment.
    Unless I’ve got a speck on my screen it says .8 atm. That’s about 11 psi isn’t it?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320
    A pedant might suggest that 0.8 would make things clearer. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,312
    pblakeney said:

    A pedant might suggest that 0.8 would make things clearer. 😉

    Yes it would.

    The Focus runs between 30 and 50 psi apparently.
    Who tf uses 'atmospheres' these days? Bar or psi shirley.
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