Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYi7qVLZCgA

    I guess French marathon runner Morhad Amdouni wins ar5eh0le of the Olympics award.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited August 2021
    RichN95. said:



    That's not just harsh, but plain wrong.

    Glaetzer did exactly what everyone does and let a gap go out so that he had room to accelerate: standard practice.
    What wasn't standard practice was for Kenny to hit the gas, even before the derny had pulled off.
    If Glaetzer had then chased, with the rest of the field on his wheel, it would have been suicide.

    That final was an exact replica of a successful late attack on the road.


    Sure it's OK to leave a gap, but that one was so large they were going to bring out the man with the blackboard
    Well, obviously the gap was too large, but it wasn't as huge as you are suggesting.

    It's usual for someone towards the back to try to move up before the derny leaves the track, so Glaetzer was looking back for the likes of Harrie Lavreysen and Awang.
    Unfortunately for Glaetzer, this time it was a game of chicken.
    However, the other 4 were all looking forward, saw Kenny disappearing and chose not to react.
    In effect, Kenny gambled and pulled off the classic late move from a breakaway on the road.

    Becky's biggest regret from Rio, was not reacting to Elis Ligtlee early move from last spot to first, in not following her wheel.
    Anyhow, if I get the chance, I'll ask our expert what she thought of the tactics employed by the others.
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  • Re Kenny in the Kierin, he did clock the fastest closing 200 of the first round and reps in his repecharge (9.5s - which I assume is worth a fair bit faster in sprint qualifying format with the benefit of height) so he clearly had good legs at the end of the week, even if he didn't at the start of the week. Chris Hoy tipped him to win the final after the semis. If Sir Chris can spot the signs from London then surely the opposition actually in the velodrome should be able see Kenny was not a man to be given any leeway.

    There is the other angle that Kenny is always so understated, which might not translate well, and folk may have read too much into his rather downbeat interviews.

    Anyway, to win a sprint final by 0.7s suggests a combination of good form and good tactics on the one hand vs an epic misjudgement on the other. There were no "fine margins" at play here. A good indication of the margin is that from the camera shot of 2/3 finishing from the top of the banking, Kenny wasn't in camera shot, and from the camera shot of Kenny finishing from the infield, 2/3 weren't in camera shot either. It's like when Shergar won the Derby in 1981 - "You need a telescope to see the rest".
  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    edited August 2021
    Aussies have had a really poor track champs. Only 1 bronze and a 4th as results of note.

    Think Simon Jones will be under a lot of pressure especially after sacking (sorry restructuring) the coaching set up including getting rid of the sprint coach. Wonder if that was part of the reason Steph Morton retired.

    Edit - oh he announced he was standing down in July must have seen where things were going
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    I've been re-watching some of the races, and I'm trying to work out if Katie Archibald was chortling her way round the Madison or grimacing. Every time there was a close up of her she seemed to be grinning like a loon.

    Still trying to work out my favourite track race. Flip up between the men's TP, men's keirin or the womens Madison....Italy were so impressive, Kenny was so unexpected (by me at least) and GB were so dominant. Tough call.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784

    Always wondered what events Russia are winning medals in as I never see any of them

    Click on them and see. 4 golds in wrestling.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/ng-interactive/2021/aug/06/tokyo-2020-olympics-full-medal-table
    I had a look in the tables to see how relevant wrestling was to the Russian total (it was relevant but not overwhelmingly; Russia got as many medals from fencing, shooting, and artistic gymnastics).

    And then, having a lazy Sunday, I had a look to see to what degree the top ten countries in the medal count were dependent on just 3 sports in their totals.

    Least dependent on 3 sports were Germany (27%), GB (32%), and Russia (34%), most dependent were Australia (59%), USA (58%) and the Netherlands (53%).
    For GB, swimming, track cycling, and boxing accounted for 32%, include athletics and then the 4 sports accounted for 42%.

    Certain countries were very dependent on particular sports - swimming and athletics together accounted for 50% of the USA total, swimming for 43% of Australia's total, athletics for 22% of the Netherlands total, and judo for 24% of France's total and for 21% of Japan's total.

    (I kept to the top ten only, because obviously dependency on certain sports increases with fewer medals – several countries were wholly dependent on athletics, taekwondo or weightlifting, as their only medals were in one of those sports)
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    It's surely much harder with skateboarding to get into a danergous position. For example, I can ride a bike down a ramp and off a jump, but I would have already fallen off before then on a skateboard.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    It's surely much harder with skateboarding to get into a danergous position. For example, I can ride a bike down a ramp and off a jump, but I would have already fallen off before then on a skateboard.

    Tell that to Jaws when he did the Lyon 25.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    ah, that all changes when you learn to Ollie....

    (I assume, you really thought I could Ollie?!!)
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T32jnYbCaP0

    Hell yeah maaan, I'm like well stoked dude!
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5xC2puxnOE

    I also don't know how this guy does it. His knees must be made of granite.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    edited August 2021
    pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    JimD666 said:

    I've been re-watching some of the races, and I'm trying to work out if Katie Archibald was chortling her way round the Madison or grimacing. Every time there was a close up of her she seemed to be grinning like a loon.

    Bzzzt. I take it you meant quine.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    orraloon said:

    JimD666 said:

    I've been re-watching some of the races, and I'm trying to work out if Katie Archibald was chortling her way round the Madison or grimacing. Every time there was a close up of her she seemed to be grinning like a loon.

    Bzzzt. I take it you meant quine.
    After some googling the answer would be: no. I meant loon
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    edited August 2021

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
    You've obviously never landed with a leg either side of a rail. 😉

    (In all seriousness I was mixing metaphors of throwing stones and casting aspersions).
    But for a giggle....




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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,610
    Was the boxing tally helped by losing semi finalists being given a bronze, whereas in all (?) other sports they have to play off for a bronze medal?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    JimD666 said:

    I've been re-watching some of the races, and I'm trying to work out if Katie Archibald was chortling her way round the Madison or grimacing. Every time there was a close up of her she seemed to be grinning like a loon.

    Still trying to work out my favourite track race. Flip up between the men's TP, men's keirin or the womens Madison....Italy were so impressive, Kenny was so unexpected (by me at least) and GB were so dominant. Tough call.

    I really enjoyed that women's madison.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Look at the quality of the 2014 Schools Games Madison podium. Walls, Hayter, Pidcock (and Fred Wright)


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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    JimD666 said:

    I've been re-watching some of the races, and I'm trying to work out if Katie Archibald was chortling her way round the Madison or grimacing. Every time there was a close up of her she seemed to be grinning like a loon.

    Still trying to work out my favourite track race. Flip up between the men's TP, men's keirin or the womens Madison....Italy were so impressive, Kenny was so unexpected (by me at least) and GB were so dominant. Tough call.

    I'm pretty sure she was laughing, it was like she couldn't believe how straightforward it had been in what is possibly the most unpredictable race on the programme.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593

    Was the boxing tally helped by losing semi finalists being given a bronze, whereas in all (?) other sports they have to play off for a bronze medal?

    Only got two bronze I think, the heavyweight may have struggled as he had a couple of cuts on his eye from being headbutted in the previous round. The woman was unlucky to lose her semifinal.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Should be OK, she spends her time split between Japan and the US I believe.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
    Which bone?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
    Which bone?
    I'm going with scaphoid
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    edited August 2021



    Winter Olympics start in a 5 or 6 months though!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ddraver said:




    Winter Olympics start in a 5 or 6 months though!

    Some bike race in Spain fairly soon
  • pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
    Which bone?
    Did their wrist, but fortunately only soft tissue and a splint. Was back on the board by evening.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    pblakeney said:

    Anyone sceptical about the ability of the Olympics to encourage participation, specifically in skateboarding, might be reassured by my eldest's trip to A&E this morning...

    Sky Brown might turn out to be the thing that finishes the NHS off.

    Cycling has sent me to hospital as many times as skateboarding ever did.
    I'd be wary of casting stones. 😉
    Casting stones? It's NHS staff casting their bloody wrist I'm worried about!

    (In all seriousness there's loads of skateboards in the campsite - more than I've ever seen before - so something's up)
    Which bone?
    Did their wrist, but fortunately only soft tissue and a splint. Was back on the board by evening.
    Baller