Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread
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It got cut 10% for the next cycle in Decemberbobmcstuff said:
Isn't their funding going to get cut massively based on this?focuszing723 said:
Duncan Scott won another Silver in the mens 200m individual medley. In total he's won two Silvers and a Gold medal.
Fantastic results for Bethany Shriever, Gold and Niek Kimmann Silver.
The rowing is shocking and needs a bloody good shake up the look of it, considering I think it costs around £25,000,0000 in funding.
I thought the allocation was pretty hard nosed based on medals and medal potential.0 -
The football at the Olympics is deliberately neutered by FIFA with the age rules isn't it? My understanding was they wanted to preserve the World Cup as the pinnacle of the sport.rick_chasey said:
I'm generally less interested in ball games in the Olympics. They have different dynamics that I don't feel are in the Olympic vibe - know what I mean?TheBigBean said:I watch football most of the year. I really want to see something else at the Olympics.
Personally I prefer it when the Olympics feels like the pinnacle of the sport rather than a bit of a sideshow. Even in road cycling the Olympic road race is up on a par with the World's (for me, and based on the winners, for the last few years).0 -
Doubt you’ll have trouble managing that. Track and field has only just started - we fall off the chart pretty quick when that gets going. 😀rick_chasey said:
Beating the aussies.Wheelspinner said:
“Really not help” what?rick_chasey said:
Incredible. If you care about the medal table - GB and Oz are neck-and-neck - that will really not help.Dorset_Boy said:
R5 said it is the first time since 1980 there hasn't been a GB rowing gold.rick_chasey said:Disappointing in the rowing - flagship men’s 8 bronze - not the usual high standards.
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Speaking of the football... Christ, that penalty.Ben
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Even more so when your medal hopefuls hang out with athletes from other nations that get a positive Covid test.Wheelspinner said:
Doubt you’ll have trouble managing that. Track and field has only just started - we fall off the chart pretty quick when that gets going. 😀rick_chasey said:
Beating the aussies.Wheelspinner said:
“Really not help” what?rick_chasey said:
Incredible. If you care about the medal table - GB and Oz are neck-and-neck - that will really not help.Dorset_Boy said:
R5 said it is the first time since 1980 there hasn't been a GB rowing gold.rick_chasey said:Disappointing in the rowing - flagship men’s 8 bronze - not the usual high standards.
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Compared to how the other sports are funded it looks like it should be.bobmcstuff said:
Isn't their funding going to get cut massively based on this?focuszing723 said:
Duncan Scott won another Silver in the mens 200m individual medley. In total he's won two Silvers and a Gold medal.
Fantastic results for Bethany Shriever, Gold and Kye Whyte Silver.
The rowing is shocking and needs a bloody good shake up the look of it, considering I think it costs around £25,000,0000 in funding.
I thought the allocation was pretty hard nosed based on medals and medal potential.
I've taken the liberty to update my shocking post to Kye Whte.3 -
Oh god the discussions of elitism would then become unbearable and it would just be an insufferable repetition Olympics after Olympics of GB versus Argentina.hypster said:Yeah
Yeah, and polo should definitely be in the Olympics for full inclusivity.Lanterne_Rogue said:
They should teach the horses to do it. Would absolutely tune in for that.TheBigBean said:I watch football most of the year. I really want to see something else at the Olympics.
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That wasn’t a good look, was it!Pross said:
Even more so when your medal hopefuls hang out with athletes from other nations that get a positive Covid test.Wheelspinner said:
Doubt you’ll have trouble managing that. Track and field has only just started - we fall off the chart pretty quick when that gets going. 😀rick_chasey said:
Beating the aussies.Wheelspinner said:
“Really not help” what?rick_chasey said:
Incredible. If you care about the medal table - GB and Oz are neck-and-neck - that will really not help.Dorset_Boy said:
R5 said it is the first time since 1980 there hasn't been a GB rowing gold.rick_chasey said:Disappointing in the rowing - flagship men’s 8 bronze - not the usual high standards.
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Roy and HG have a daily podcast out for this Olympics, and it's as good as ever. They'll appreciate the efforts of the Aussie heroes in the football team against the hated Team GB.0
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The funding for Rowing is set through until Paris in 3 years time iirc. They may have to do something very special to not take a massive cut after that.bobmcstuff said:
Isn't their funding going to get cut massively based on this?focuszing723 said:
Duncan Scott won another Silver in the mens 200m individual medley. In total he's won two Silvers and a Gold medal.
Fantastic results for Bethany Shriever, Gold and Niek Kimmann Silver.
The rowing is shocking and needs a bloody good shake up the look of it, considering I think it costs around £25,000,0000 in funding.
I thought the allocation was pretty hard nosed based on medals and medal potential.
EDIT: Adding link to details
2nd EDIT: Just read it properly and I'm now not quite as sure....0 -
Yeah as you say in your edit - it does sound like it could change.JimD666 said:
The funding for Rowing is set through until Paris in 3 years time iirc. They may have to do something very special to not take a massive cut after that.bobmcstuff said:
Isn't their funding going to get cut massively based on this?focuszing723 said:
Duncan Scott won another Silver in the mens 200m individual medley. In total he's won two Silvers and a Gold medal.
Fantastic results for Bethany Shriever, Gold and Niek Kimmann Silver.
The rowing is shocking and needs a bloody good shake up the look of it, considering I think it costs around £25,000,0000 in funding.
I thought the allocation was pretty hard nosed based on medals and medal potential.
EDIT: Adding link to details
2nd EDIT: Just read it properly and I'm now not quite as sure....The award provides British Rowing with certainty of funding through to Tokyo for both the Olympic and Paralympic programmes and includes an indicative total figure for the following three years, which UK Sport plan to revisit with the government following the Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2021.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Yeah, which is odd and is seems to directly contradict the first sentence: "British Rowing has today received confirmation of funding from UK Sport to support the GB Rowing Team through to the Tokyo 2020 and Paris 2024 Olympic and Paralympic Games."pangolin said:
Yeah as you say in your edit - it does sound like it could change.JimD666 said:
The funding for Rowing is set through until Paris in 3 years time iirc. They may have to do something very special to not take a massive cut after that.bobmcstuff said:
Isn't their funding going to get cut massively based on this?focuszing723 said:
Duncan Scott won another Silver in the mens 200m individual medley. In total he's won two Silvers and a Gold medal.
Fantastic results for Bethany Shriever, Gold and Niek Kimmann Silver.
The rowing is shocking and needs a bloody good shake up the look of it, considering I think it costs around £25,000,0000 in funding.
I thought the allocation was pretty hard nosed based on medals and medal potential.
EDIT: Adding link to details
2nd EDIT: Just read it properly and I'm now not quite as sure....The award provides British Rowing with certainty of funding through to Tokyo for both the Olympic and Paralympic programmes and includes an indicative total figure for the following three years, which UK Sport plan to revisit with the government following the Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2021.0 -
I thought they GB olympic hierarchy had pretty much said before the games that the medal tally target had pretty much gone out the window due to COVID? They can't say that and then say, but on the other hand we're pulling your funding due to not hitting your targets.0
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Team GB currently leading Belgium (World and European Champs) in the 2nd quarter of the men's hockey.
Belgium beat Germany 3-1 earlier on the comp and Germany beat GB 5-1.0 -
McColgan a bit of a disappointment in the 5000m. Thought she might get a medal there but seemed to lose it a bit mentally after getting clipped0
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This is what i was going on a about in an earlier comment.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/30/roc-olympic-successes-mean-absent-russia-more-present-than-ever-tokyo-olympics
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As always the athletics makes it feel like the Olympics has finally started.0
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Athing Mu (born June 8, 2002) is an American middle-distance runner. She set the world under-20 record in the women's indoor 800 meters in early 2021 with a time of 1:58.40 sec, and the world under-20 best in the indoor 600 meters in 2019 when she was 16 years of age. Mu's time over 600 meters, 1:23.57, is the second fastest ever run indoors and the second fastest run by an American woman in any condition.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athing_Mu
Incredible running by Athing Mu (USA) in the 800m. Her stride was at a third of the rate of the other athletes.0 -
I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.1
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That's a fair point.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
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It means basketball will suffer, there's two gold medals in total available, and we aren't likely to win one, so it doesn't get funded.
But what is someone more likely to take up? Rowing or basketball?0 -
I assume it does to an extent. If the facilities aren't there for elite athletes then the medals won't come. A big chunk of the costs of the Newport velodrome came from the Lottery.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
Medals are a big driver towards participation though. I was coaching at my cycling club in 2012 and the amount of new kids that turned up after the London Games was significant.1 -
The thing is though, track cycling requires an expensive bit of kit (the track) and is likely to have limited use because of the number of people that can use it at the same time, so I'd rather some of that investment went in other sports and their facilities. Overall participation would be my criteria.Pross said:
I assume it does to an extent. If the facilities aren't there for elite athletes then the medals won't come. A big chunk of the costs of the Newport velodrome came from the Lottery.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
Medals are a big driver towards participation though. I was coaching at my cycling club in 2012 and the amount of new kids that turned up after the London Games was significant.0 -
Rowing is very inclusive and accessible, if you go to private school, a Russell Group uni and are white and rather posh. Other than that it's an up hill battle.kingstongraham said:It means basketball will suffer, there's two gold medals in total available, and we aren't likely to win one, so it doesn't get funded.
But what is someone more likely to take up? Rowing or basketball?
It is a beautiful sport to do and to watch, but in many ways it is embarrassing.0 -
I'm pretty sure that's how it works. My understanding is the national sports bodies get lottery funding for use on grass roots sport including local facilities whilst UK Sport get funding towards elite programmes.TheBigBean said:
The thing is though, track cycling requires an expensive bit of kit (the track) and is likely to have limited use because of the number of people that can use it at the same time, so I'd rather some of that investment went in other sports and their facilities. Overall participation would be my criteria.Pross said:
I assume it does to an extent. If the facilities aren't there for elite athletes then the medals won't come. A big chunk of the costs of the Newport velodrome came from the Lottery.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
Medals are a big driver towards participation though. I was coaching at my cycling club in 2012 and the amount of new kids that turned up after the London Games was significant.1 -
Some dirty fighting in the boxing today. The Uzbek? fighting one of the British men was using forearms, elbows and head (that caused a cut eye) whilst the Yank fighting Dubois landed two head shots whilst holding her and after being told to release earning a point deduction.
Not a fan of the blonde haired British boxer. He's a bit cocky even when he scraped through his quarter final.0 -
A friend of mine was a keen rower (well, i think he coxed at Cambridge back in the day) and was part of the crew that rowed the Queens barge for the queens jubilee thing (the one where Philip didn't pee all day).First.Aspect said:
Rowing is very inclusive and accessible, if you go to private school, a Russell Group uni and are white and rather posh. Other than that it's an up hill battle.kingstongraham said:It means basketball will suffer, there's two gold medals in total available, and we aren't likely to win one, so it doesn't get funded.
But what is someone more likely to take up? Rowing or basketball?
It is a beautiful sport to do and to watch, but in many ways it is embarrassing.
Although he went to Cambridge he wasn't posh (he's a research scientist). I met him through cycling actually.
He invited me to go to his rowing club and have a go. I accepted and it was a weird club where they only rowed old fashioned boats, wooden ones with fixed seats and you sit next to someone. We rowed down the Thames a bit, stopped at a pub for a pint, and rowed back.
Not sure where i'm going with this, but i think some clubs you can just turn up at and give it a bash.
Edit. This is the club https://www.richmondbridgeboatclub.com/
you won't find the type of boat they row at the olympics, hence them doing the Queens barge.1 -
Just looked at the cost of joining my local rowing club. It's £325 per year for full use of facilities and £132 for juniors which seems fairly good. They do a 4 week 'learn to row' course for adults at £95.
If I was 20 years younger I might have given it a go.
Again, it's one of those where the assumption that only a particular type of person participates ends up becoming self-fulfilling.1 -
Yes, so I suppose my point is that the UK sport money should go to the sports bodies. I'd much rather more kids got to go [paddle boarding on the canal] than some rowers won medals. The rowers aren't state paid in most countries.Pross said:
I'm pretty sure that's how it works. My understanding is the national sports bodies get lottery funding for use on grass roots sport including local facilities whilst UK Sport get funding towards elite programmes.TheBigBean said:
The thing is though, track cycling requires an expensive bit of kit (the track) and is likely to have limited use because of the number of people that can use it at the same time, so I'd rather some of that investment went in other sports and their facilities. Overall participation would be my criteria.Pross said:
I assume it does to an extent. If the facilities aren't there for elite athletes then the medals won't come. A big chunk of the costs of the Newport velodrome came from the Lottery.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
Medals are a big driver towards participation though. I was coaching at my cycling club in 2012 and the amount of new kids that turned up after the London Games was significant.0 -
I suspect most athletes in the rowing competition are professional. Most countries view sport as a form of soft power, and "bread and circuses" applies as much now as it ever did. In terms of return on investment it's probably quite reasonable value for a government - and most of it washes back as tax eventually anyway, as long as your athletes aren't based permanently abroad.TheBigBean said:
Yes, so I suppose my point is that the UK sport money should go to the sports bodies. I'd much rather more kids got to go [paddle boarding on the canal] than some rowers won medals. The rowers aren't state paid in most countries.Pross said:
I'm pretty sure that's how it works. My understanding is the national sports bodies get lottery funding for use on grass roots sport including local facilities whilst UK Sport get funding towards elite programmes.TheBigBean said:
The thing is though, track cycling requires an expensive bit of kit (the track) and is likely to have limited use because of the number of people that can use it at the same time, so I'd rather some of that investment went in other sports and their facilities. Overall participation would be my criteria.Pross said:
I assume it does to an extent. If the facilities aren't there for elite athletes then the medals won't come. A big chunk of the costs of the Newport velodrome came from the Lottery.TheBigBean said:I really wish the funding went on sports facilities rather than medals.
Medals are a big driver towards participation though. I was coaching at my cycling club in 2012 and the amount of new kids that turned up after the London Games was significant.
FWIW with the grass roots funding that sporting bodies are held to, I'd make it a condition that they only fund local clubs if they partner up with their local state school, to give children proper access to a range of sports. It'd open up a lot more to them than whatever fits onto the part of the playing field that wasn't sold off in the early nineties.
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