Olympics All Format Spoiler Thread
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Long interview with Grobler (who stepped down after many many many years at team GB) here from March: https://row-360.com/jurgen-grobler-in-conversation/Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
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rick_chasey said:
Long interview with Grobler (who stepped down after many many many years at team GB) here from March: https://row-360.com/jurgen-grobler-in-conversation/Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
Looks like a lot of sports have written off Tokyo after the Paris funding amounts were announced and are just concentrating of Paris, from the interview rowing seems to be one of themrick_chasey said:
Long interview with Grobler (who stepped down after many many many years at team GB) here from March: https://row-360.com/jurgen-grobler-in-conversation/Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
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I won the Zen prize (self awarded) for a 2 km swim over a beautiful lake once. My reasoning was that by finishing last I enjoyed it for longer than anyone elseWarning No formatter is installed for the format1
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I've got to the age where in any event my main aim is to beat someone younger than me.....0
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Kendricks and an Argentinian pole vaulter test positive. The whole Aussie track and field team were isolating whilst contact tracing was carried out but all bar 3 now released.0
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Not sure what happened to the British guy in the breaststroke final, really faded badly at the end. The winner seemed to be called Stubbley C0ck0
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Just watching women's volleyball - China v ROC
Very tight match, some very tall women.... a good match.“You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”
Wilier Cento Uno SR/Wilier Mortirolo/Specialized Roubaix Comp/Kona Hei Hei/Calibre Bossnut0 -
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Should poach the Irish coach.Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
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Impressive,mrb123 said:
I used to feel I'd done OK in events if my time was inside that of the winner multiplied by 1.5.jimmyjams said:mididoctors said:
As long as I wasn't last and finished in the bunch I called it a winDeVlaeminck said:
Have you ever done a competitive sport? Just interestedBen6899 said:I'm not saying my attitude is correct, btw. In fact, it's way off normal thinking!
I've never entered the club TT. No point - wouldn't win.
My rough rule of thumb was, for running races and duathlons 'success = in the the top third', and for MTB-races, TTs and RRs 'success = in the top two-thirds' (whereby I'm talking about the whole field, not just my age class - there I finished yet higher)ddraver said:Upper half of mid-table obscurity is always my aim...
But now, with less training and fitness the last 10 years, and on average now only one event per year (it used to be about 12), I have to realise, and accept, 'success = not finish in the last 10-15%'!
(At least so far, I've just about managed this).
If I'm double a professionals time I think I'm doing good...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I was going to say it seems odd to make Paris the priority when Tokyo is a year out but you are saying the funding decisions have already been taken for this 4 year cycle?neonriver said:rick_chasey said:
Long interview with Grobler (who stepped down after many many many years at team GB) here from March: https://row-360.com/jurgen-grobler-in-conversation/Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
Looks like a lot of sports have written off Tokyo after the Paris funding amounts were announced and are just concentrating of Paris, from the interview rowing seems to be one of themrick_chasey said:
Long interview with Grobler (who stepped down after many many many years at team GB) here from March: https://row-360.com/jurgen-grobler-in-conversation/Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
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Same as the Lantern Rouge getting a better tan than the Yellow Jersey. 😉No_Ta_Doctor said:I won the Zen prize (self awarded) for a 2 km swim over a beautiful lake once. My reasoning was that by finishing last I enjoyed it for longer than anyone else
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.2 -
GB absolutely demolishing NZ at rugby at the moment.0
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I used to row bow in a four and a pair. It's bow's job to call changes in pressure or length to keep a straight course, and use a foot operated rudder if necessary. It is all fairly subtle on a straight course. The only way to get that sudden a course change is with the rudder.Pross said:Finally saw the GB steering issue. I hadn't realised quite how bad it was and that they somehow didn't even realise. I'd assumed it was just a slight veering off line. Another boat seemed to do the same just before the line. Have to admit I'd always assumed the steering was done by the oars. Grainger saying you don't generally have to steer on a straight course unless there's a strong crosswind (although the quad crew mentioned having a good lane draw for the crosswind so maybe that explains it?).
There was a cross tail wind yesterday but the four boat is 40+ feet long and desperately wants to go straight. In an elite or even halfway decent boat you've chosen athletes who are comparable enough to row straight.
So it wasn't the conditions. It was headless chicken stuff that you don't even see in weekend regattas.
I think the bow man was trying to reach for more length, putting his knees out to do it - which is a weak position anyway. Knee out = heel in = rudder turns you to port / stroke side.
As bow you also have more influence over steering in that direction with power, so it was all down to him. He could have used the rudder (or not used it) or eased or shortened slightly himself. The boat always goes fastest in a straight line. What he actually seems to have done is closed his eyes for several blocks of strokes. Embarrasos.
I doubt he will row that position at international level in a coxless boat again.0 -
New Zealand coach.Pross said:
Should poach the Irish coach.Lanterne_Rogue said:Rumblings in the rowing world that the new bloke in charge isn't much good. Comes from a triathlon background, apparently, so presumably still hoping to claw it back in the cycling and running legs...
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GB not demolishing NZ at rugby any more.kingstongraham said:GB absolutely demolishing NZ at rugby at the moment.
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So naive the way they let NZ back into that. Giving their wing the outside, taking a scrum penalty in their own half rather than getting territory when the side putting in had been penalised at the previous two scrums and then flying up to make what could have been a superb tackle but going too high meaning they had to finish with 6 players.kingstongraham said:
GB not demolishing NZ at rugby any more.kingstongraham said:GB absolutely demolishing NZ at rugby at the moment.
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Yeah.pblakeney said:Dunno. Ask a member of the public who Tao is and you’ll get “Who?” As an answer.
I think Callum Skinner is better known than TGH to be honest but I obviously have no way of quantifying that (that I can be bothered to do anyway)
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I don't get hockey. Penalties get given for the most random things and often go the opposite way to what seems logical.0
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Very much enjoying the water polo match between Greece and Japan at the moment. Truly the Olympic experience.0
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A bit like cycling under the UCI, thenPross said:I don't get hockey. Penalties get given for the most random things and often go the opposite way to what seems logical.
It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
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Yeah, Rings event for the men and the Beam for the woman are the two events that always leave me gobsmacked. Not to say the others aren't impressive but those two? Sheesh...rick_chasey said:I am always in awe of the gymnastics.
They are f*cking nails.1 -
Pro riders don't own their bikes either.above_the_cows said:
You assume those that ride own their horses. It's quite funny when I'm sure you wouldn't bat and eyelid at someone spending 5000 quid on a bike.rick_chasey said:It's not either or tbf.
Re tennis - it was £20 per year membership of the local village courts and you could borrow rackets - everyone played it.
I did hockey at state school (hated it, ugh).
I think the cost of dressage etc is an order of magnitude higher than pretty much all else.
I did a fair bit of rowing (coxing) but none of us paid to row, the club paid it all for us out of adult club subs and we were all from state school so I have a slightly skew view on how elitist or not it is.
I don't think anyone doubts how skillful, brave or difficult Equestrian is, more how truly 'global' or accessible it is.
Do British Equestrian run talent ID days in schools like British Cycling do (did?) - that's how Lizzie D got into the sport.
I would agree that cycling has a long way to go in terms of being truly global / diverse but its getting better.
The only true global sports that come to mind are Football and athletics (running).0 -
I blame Jilly CooperPross said:
That's the issue though isn't it? Others have the same view of rowing as you do of other "elite" sports. They see everyone doing it at the top level as Oxbridge educated former public school kids.rick_chasey said:It's not either or tbf.
Re tennis - it was £20 per year membership of the local village courts and you could borrow rackets - everyone played it.
I did hockey at state school (hated it, ugh).
I think the cost of dressage etc is an order of magnitude higher than pretty much all else.
I did a fair bit of rowing (coxing) but none of us paid to row, the club paid it all for us out of adult club subs and we were all from state school so I have a slightly skew view on how elitist or not it is.
I think where I live a lot of people with land to have horses are farmers (or travellers!) and the majority of kids at the local Pony Club were from pretty normal state school families.0 -
The beam is ridiculous.JimD666 said:
Yeah, Rings event for the men and the Beam for the woman are the two events that always leave me gobsmacked. Not to say the others aren't impressive but those two? Sheesh...rick_chasey said:I am always in awe of the gymnastics.
They are f*cking nails.
Watching the uneven bars today, I thought about how almost nobody would be able to even do one swing that goes all the way round. They're incredible.0 -
The problem there is you can't really quantify talent in equestrian and many other sports the way you can in cycling and rowing in particularyorkshireraw said:
Do British Equestrian run talent ID days in schools like British Cycling do (did?) - that's how Lizzie D got into the sport.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Trots per kilo?RichN95. said:
The problem there is you can't really quantify talent in equestrian and many other sports the way you can in cycling and rowing in particularyorkshireraw said:
Do British Equestrian run talent ID days in schools like British Cycling do (did?) - that's how Lizzie D got into the sport.1 -
Not many Lauras. 😉mrb123 said:
Trots per kilo?RichN95. said:
The problem there is you can't really quantify talent in equestrian and many other sports the way you can in cycling and rowing in particularyorkshireraw said:
Do British Equestrian run talent ID days in schools like British Cycling do (did?) - that's how Lizzie D got into the sport.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1
