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TDF 2021:- Stage 15, Céret > Andorre-La-Vieille 191.3km **Spoilers**

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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 3,416

    Jumbo saving their tour ... Ineos not so much ...

    Hard to see them getting a podium at the moment. Carapaz needs time on Vingegaard and Uran before the TT and not looking like getting it.
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,557
    zest28 said:

    Seems like the strategy of Pogacar this tour is just to follow Carapez, just like what he did to Roglic last year.

    Ineos must be going mad that everytime they look behind, there is Pogacar behind them smiling.

    Yes, the way he has followed Carapaz to a 5' 33" lead has been embarrassing
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,557
    10 years since the last US stage win
  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 7,296
    Kuss looked smooth downhill be interesting to know how much of an advantage local knowledge was - for me it'd help a lot but whether that's the same for the pros ...?
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 17,773
    Decent stage that (at least with the sound off and also watching the tennis)
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 10,448

    Jumbo saving their tour ... Ineos not so much ...

    They can’t seem to get out of the train tactic
    Having barle and Castroviejo up the road was good .
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • zest28zest28 Posts: 363

    RichN95. said:

    This will be the first American stage winner for ten years

    Class ride ...I was rooting for valverde but he looked like a old man who lost his bottle on that descent .... Know the feeling
    Kuss lives here so he knows those descents on the back of his hand. So can’t blame Valverde for that performance against Kuss
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 10,448
    zest28 said:

    RichN95. said:

    This will be the first American stage winner for ten years

    Class ride ...I was rooting for valverde but he looked like a old man who lost his bottle on that descent .... Know the feeling
    Kuss lives here so he knows those descents on the back of his hand. So can’t blame Valverde for that performance against Kuss
    . True

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  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,330

    Kuss looked smooth downhill be interesting to know how much of an advantage local knowledge was - for me it'd help a lot but whether that's the same for the pros ...?

    Seeing some of the lines WVA took...
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 10,448
    How is carapaz going to drop the Dane and get on the podium? Or drop Uran enough for a buffer in the TT
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 17,773

    Jumbo saving their tour ... Ineos not so much ...

    They can’t seem to get out of the train tactic
    Having barle and Castroviejo up the road was good .
    Then dropped them back to do nothing more than stoke the engine.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,200
    Before the start, Eurosport were talking this one up as the Queen stage. It obviously isn't, but I suppose they felt the need to spice things up a bit.

    The change in the GC is that it's back to exactly where it was before yesterday's breakaway and Martin's 5 minute bonus.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 29,557
    Carapaz need to get a minute plus on Uran and Vingergaard from somewhere before the TT if he wants to be on the final podium. All in on either the Portet or Luz Ardiden looks like the only chance now but I'm not sure he has what is needed this year.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 16,748
    Plan has to be go hard on Wednesday to break them, then make up the time on Thursday. Or, give up.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    edited 11 July
    Seven riders still to finish. One of them is Cavendish. He should be easily OK though

    Edit: Only EBH now
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,666
    Jumbo doing everything they can to get the coveted A in Rich's post Tour review
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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,219
    RichN95. said:

    Seven riders still to finish. One of them is Cavendish. He should be easily OK though

    He just crossed with nearly 9 minutes to spare
  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,330
    Cavendish in safe . Didn't look like it had been terribly stressful for them, just saving as much effort as possible.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,281 Lives Here
    Lads you don’t need to worry every time cav gets dropped.
  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,330
    Don't think anyone was especially worried?

    EBH is surely going to be timed out though.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,666

    Jumbo doing a good job salvaging their Tour here fair play.

    Got a lot of heat earlier in the day for their tactics but they’re coming out on top here

    They got it spot on.

    These tactics took a lot of confidence in Vingegaard
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  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,666
    edited 11 July

    Lads you don’t need to worry every time cav gets dropped.


    He's made it home
    He's made it home
    Cavendish made it home

    Believe that a farther shore
    Is reachable from here.
    Believe in miracles
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,200
    edited 11 July

    Jumbo doing a good job salvaging their Tour here fair play.

    Got a lot of heat earlier in the day for their tactics but they’re coming out on top here

    They got it spot on.

    These tactics took a lot of confidence in Vingegaard
    Must be why they told Belgian tv that the had none, then. ;)

    EBH has not appeared in the stage ranking, which means he is definitely OTL.
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  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,330
    Just hope EBH gets in safely. He was all over the place the last time they showed him on the climb.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    Still no sign of EBH at the finish. Maybe he got off.
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 10,448

    Lads you don’t need to worry every time cav gets dropped.


    He's made it home
    He's made it home
    Cavendish made it home

    Itv were running the Italian job lol
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 10,448

    Jumbo saving their tour ... Ineos not so much ...

    They can’t seem to get out of the train tactic
    Having barle and Castroviejo up the road was good .
    Then dropped them back to do nothing more than stoke the engine.
    Yeah kinda didn't work out
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    EBH finished 25 minutes outside the time cut.
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  • above_the_cowsabove_the_cows Posts: 11,318
    Oh dear Edvald.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,200
    RichN95. said:

    EBH finished 25 minutes outside the time cut.

    It will be interesting to see how many turn up for the start after the rest day and how many head for the airport and Tokyo.
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