TDF 2021:- Stage 15, Céret > Andorre-La-Vieille 191.3km **Spoilers**

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Odd tactics from Jumbo (should I be surprised?)
    All Vingegaard’s climbing support have gone up the road.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,704
    blazing_saddles said:

    Odd tactics from Jumbo (should I be surprised?)
    All Vingegaard’s climbing support have gone up the road.

    Either Vingegaard has a plan for an early attack or the big names there have decided they're not at the Tour to put a kid on the podium.

    Pre stage Kuss was saying they'd be allowed to get in the break and could always drop back if needed, but if Jonas is alone and needs a bike that's not much help
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,704
    Mind you, the break is splintering already. Perhaps they thought they needed three to try for the eventual lead group, and once that's gone can drop back
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Odd tactics from Jumbo (should I be surprised?)
    All Vingegaard’s climbing support have gone up the road.

    Either Vingegaard has a plan for an early attack or the big names there have decided they're not at the Tour to put a kid on the podium.

    Pre stage Kuss was saying they'd be allowed to get in the break and could always drop back if needed, but if Jonas is alone and needs a bike that's not much help
    He’s only got Teunissen with him and although he’s not bad I wouldn’t call him a climber….
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,479
    32 with heading towards 8 minutes.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,341
    Been keeping an eye on Bouhanni. He's basically losing as much time to the peloton as the peloton is to the leaders, now 8'30" behind. Slightly surprised he's not climbed off yet.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    edited July 2021
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    Been keeping an eye on Bouhanni. He's basically losing as much time to the peloton as the peloton is to the leaders, now 8'30" behind. Slightly surprised he's not climbed off yet.


    He probably will when gets to a feed zone and a soigneur can pick him up
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    That Dan Lloyd is a clever bloke. :DB)
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,716
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    The day's entertainment from the Danish commentary team, Rolf and Chris Anker trading nightmares:

    Rolf: was riding a climb that just got steeper and steeper, until he needed climbing gear and didn't know how he'd get over it

    Chris Anker: the mechanics had forgotten our bikes and we had to run. We couldn't keep up and our DS was giving us a bollocking while we tried to explain we were running

    :smiley:

    That's just the reality for me everytime the road goes uphill
  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Missed the start, just catching up.

    Blimey, that’s a rather big breakaway.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Bouhanni about 24 minutes down at the sprint point
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,341
    Now 16 minutes behind the peloton. Looked like he was more or less soft-pedalling at this point:


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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,633
    And he's climbed off.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,216
    edited July 2021
    It seems wrong to say climbed off, he more dismounted.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    He’s abandoned
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,341
    Not really a surprise, given how much he's struggled with climbs throughout this tour.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    I am beginning to wonder if Ned Boulting has dementia.
    Jasper Philipsen hasn’t beaten Cav this season?
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,615
    So Bouhanni, Merlier both gone today.

    Phillipsen and WVA the only ‘sprinters’ left alongside Cav.

    It’s coming home (to Paris).
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    gweeds said:

    So Bouhanni, Merlier both gone today.

    Phillipsen and WVA the only ‘sprinters’ left alongside Cav.

    It’s coming home (to Paris).


    How many wins does Greipel have to get to be considered a sprinter?
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,633
    gweeds said:

    So Bouhanni, Merlier both gone today.

    Phillipsen and WVA the only ‘sprinters’ left alongside Cav.

    It’s coming home (to Paris).

    Didn't Merlier abandon about 4 days ago?
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,341
    edited July 2021
    blazing_saddles said:

    I am beginning to wonder if Ned Boulting has dementia.
    Jasper Philipsen hasn’t beaten Cav this season?

    Stages 6&7 in Turkey

    Edit - also won Scheldeprijs after Bennett and Cavendish got in each other's way (and in Cavendish's case, possibly into Bennett's head)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    It’s good to see a proper KOM battle
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,479
    Cav group out the back now.

    30s adrift of the Yellow group at about 9min 500m from the top of this climb.

    Should be safe today

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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,633
    edited July 2021
    Wout from Wout from Michael.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I am beginning to wonder if Ned Boulting has dementia.
    Jasper Philipsen hasn’t beaten Cav this season?

    Stages 6&7 in Turkey
    Exactly.
    Selective memory otherwise
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,341
    I'm not on ITV - Boulting said that Philipsen hadn't beaten him this year, I assume?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Further to the Vingegaard conversation on Eurosport and watching WVA now contesting the KoM points: I hope he has the sense to jump ship ASAP.

    Much is made of Ineos not giving young riders a chance but I am sure they were in the same position they would be behind him.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Meanwhile David Millar, who hasn’t had the Belgian tv feedback thinks it a good tactic.

    9 minutes is a heck of a lot of resting up and dropping back
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,738
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    I'm not on ITV - Boulting said that Philipsen hadn't beaten him this year, I assume?

    You assume correctly
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,633
    Cav get back onto the yellow jersy group over the top of the Mont Louis climb.

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