TDF 2021: Stage 12, Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux > Nîmes 159.4 km **Spoilers**

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    Dan Martin was spat out of the break yesterday...

    De Gendt hasn't really had a stage to perform on.
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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
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    Pross said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    Dan Martin was in the break yesterday wasn't he?
    Was he? I had the ITV4 stream on from 12ish (sometimes in background), but didn't hear him mentioned or recognise him.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    poweredbyidris said:

    Pross said:

    poweredbyidris said:

    daniel_b said:

    I wonder if Cav has said he's not feeling it today after yesterdays efforts, let JA go out in the break, Cav can rest up, and hit it hard tomorrow.

    Just noticed he's wearing a normal jersey rather than a skinsuit. Don't think he's going for it
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    A nice thing about that WvA Vignette, and his demeanour in general, is that he is starting to realise that he has a touch of star quality and to enjoy it a little...
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    edited July 2021
    The obligatory soft break transition stage

    Well softish... Could be crosswind action later
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  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Pross said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    Dan Martin was in the break yesterday wasn't he?
    Was he? I had the ITV4 stream on from 12ish (sometimes in background), but didn't hear him mentioned or recognise him.
    Not even when he was first over the first cat 1 climb of the day?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    It's been very pretty
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    kingstongraham said:

    It's been very pretty

    We've stopped talking about Dan Martin and gone back to talking about the Ardèche then?
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    Who just said this was one of the strongest breakaways in years?

    Erm... stage 7?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    kingstongraham said:

    It's been very pretty

    We've stopped talking about Dan Martin and gone back to talking about the Ardèche then?
    You only know because I wouldn't call him "it".
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    kingstongraham said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    kingstongraham said:

    It's been very pretty

    We've stopped talking about Dan Martin and gone back to talking about the Ardèche then?
    You only know because I wouldn't call him "it".
    He's beautiful on the inside
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    edited July 2021
    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,587
    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Pross said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    Dan Martin was in the break yesterday wasn't he?
    Was he? I had the ITV4 stream on from 12ish (sometimes in background), but didn't hear him mentioned or recognise him.
    As someone else pointed out he looked to be chasing the KoM points and took the 1st cat climb before getting spat out.

    I think he may have been in one of the breaks in the Alps too.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,587
    kingstongraham said:

    It's been very pretty

    I need to go back there
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    I spy with my little eye something beginning with G?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Doesn't surprise me. Gilbert is 39, GVA 36, de Gendt 34...
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Sounds a bit grumpy old men tbh .... But it has been full on
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    dish_dash said:

    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Doesn't surprise me. Gilbert is 39, GVA 36, de Gendt 34...
    I guess it depends on whether we can believe them when they say their power numbers are still what they were or whether father time has come knocking.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    So this stage has turned into:

    "The Mystery of the Missing Skinsuit"
    Correlation is not causation.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    mididoctors said:

    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Sounds a bit grumpy old men tbh .... But it has been full on
    It’s more “my numbers are the same but they don’t do the job anymore”
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    above_the_cows said:

    So this stage has turned into:

    "The Mystery of the Missing Skinsuit"

    ASO trying to rig the lanterne for Cav. Disgusting. I expect it will get a mention in tonight's update
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Sometimes being right holds no joy.
    I said today would have early, then no crosswind action, but this is worse.
    I said it would be over quickly but it's a training ride.
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  • blazing_saddles
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    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    rick_chasey said:

    mididoctors said:

    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Sounds a bit grumpy old men tbh .... But it has been full on
    It’s more “my numbers are the same but they don’t do the job anymore”
    I don't think there's much doubt the racing has been full on this year. I remember a Giro a couple of years ago where we were all saying it was so much more fun than the Tour because of the chaos full on charge from the gun each morning.

    I don't know if this is the new usual, or just this tour edition. But Rolf and Chris Anker are suggesting the kids just don't ask permission any more. There's no "pay your dues for two seasons, then you can race", they want to race and they want to race hard, stuff the old guys if they don't like it.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    Attack from the break, pollit followed by Swift
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    rick_chasey said:

    mididoctors said:

    rick_chasey said:

    phreak said:

    N0bodyOfTheGoat said:

    Can't see Morkov in the rider list at https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/12 . Cav is at the back, no sign of his lead-out man.

    Some riders have had very quiet participation so far this Tour, including De Ghent and Dan Martin. Recovering from injury, or something else going on?

    de Gendt was saying that the race is just too quick this year. His numbers are still good but what would previously have got him into the break has had him in the grupetto. Said he will probably retire when his contract ends if it continues.
    GvA saying the same, as is Gilbert.
    Sounds a bit grumpy old men tbh .... But it has been full on
    It’s more “my numbers are the same but they don’t do the job anymore”
    I don't think there's much doubt the racing has been full on this year. I remember a Giro a couple of years ago where we were all saying it was so much more fun than the Tour because of the chaos full on charge from the gun each morning.

    I don't know if this is the new usual, or just this tour edition. But Rolf and Chris Anker are suggesting the kids just don't ask permission any more. There's no "pay your dues for two seasons, then you can race", they want to race and they want to race hard, stuff the old guys if they don't like it.
    Belgium is definitely raising some eyebrows, but because WvA is one of them they're being a bit quiet.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,691
    HORSE!
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    HORSE!

    That was fine horsiness. And she's plenty of time to go back and get ready for the peloton.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    Break is in the exposed section now, so 10 minutes till the start of the last possibility of interest for the peloton.

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