TDF 2021: Stage 11, Sorgues > Malaucène 198.9 km **Spoilers**

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    O'connor looked quite impressive in the ventoux challenge race earlier this year, but everyone got blown away by Lopez. Winner not in that lead group imo.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    TheBigBean said:

    Cut off times are the blue line

    image

    That red line is where the gIro cut off would be?

    Is that the legacy of wanting Cipollini to hang around into the second week?
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  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Had anyone worked out what the Ineos tactic is here?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    Had anyone worked out what the Ineos tactic is here?

    whittling the group down so Carapaz can attack and cement 2nd place?
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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,065
    lettingthedaysgoby said:

    Had anyone worked out what the Ineos tactic is here?

    They've all had their memory wiped and think they are riding for a pre-crash Froome. ;)
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Dan done early.
    Surprised by that.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Riis reckons Ineos might really be aiming for a mountain echelon when they get out of the trees.

    I've only seen it the once, in the Giro this year.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Was Mollema dropped? Or chasse patat?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Thomas has emptied the tank.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    rick_chasey said:

    Was Mollema dropped? Or chasse patat?

    It's Mollema.
    The latter of course.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    He's making it over
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    blazing_saddles said:

    Thomas has emptied the tank.

    For what purpose?
  • ddraver
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Cav 9 mins behind peloton
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 2021
    blazing_saddles said:

    Thomas has emptied the tank....

    ....engine.



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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    rick_chasey said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Thomas has emptied the tank....

    ....engine.


    Parenthood is taking its toll on you, isn't it?
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Oh that last ramp to the top is disgusting. Alaphilippe takes the points
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  • specialgueststar
    specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
    Gaudu. Ten years ago they would put him in the car. Now ? Past it. 😅
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Disappointing lack of stuffed animals today.



    Anyway some lovely moody weather.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    rick_chasey said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Thomas has emptied the tank....

    ....engine.


    Parenthood is taking its toll on you, isn't it?
    Haha I was into it - it's a rather dystopian authoritarian programme which has not aged well so I tend to steer clear of it.
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  • ddraver
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    Campanerts and Luke Rowe dangling behind the Green Jersey Grupetto.

    Looking...challenging
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Alaphilippe Perez and WVA distancing the rest of the breakaway
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    above_the_cows said:

    Disappointing lack of stuffed animals today.



    Anyway some lovely moody weather.


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  • TheBigBean
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    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Cut off times are the blue line

    image

    That red line is where the gIro cut off would be?

    Is that the legacy of wanting Cipollini to hang around into the second week?
    Yes. The graph makes it look very random. What they should really do is something like Duckworth-Lewis that looks at historic races times based on loads of inputs. Then they can just give a cut off time for each stage in advance (possibly including something like 10 mins after the winner too). If a rider is dropped in the first few kms, a key factor shouldn't really involve the exact average speed of the winner.

    They could even allow the organisers to extend it for weather in exceptional circumstances.
  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    Some tremendous heli shots through the trees on the descent 👌
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
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    rick_chasey said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    rick_chasey said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Thomas has emptied the tank....

    ....engine.


    Parenthood is taking its toll on you, isn't it?
    Haha I was into it - it's a rather dystopian authoritarian programme which has not aged well so I tend to steer clear of it.
    Oh it's very dodgy indeed. Arbitrary punishment for not doing your job well enough? I'm just surprised none of the engines were sent into a break on a 250km sprint stage...
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    I wonder if Thibaut Pinot sent David Gaudu some of his goats cheese? :p
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  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    Those 3km below the roundabout at Mont Serein are just warp speed
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Just saw the Cav group, apparently 17 minutes back. It's not a gruppetto, it's three DQS and a handful of others.

    Cees bol is solo behind i think
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Campanaerts is several minutes behind the autobus. Rowe and Kragh Andersen are a couple of minutes behind it.
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