TDF 2021: Stage 11, Sorgues > Malaucène 198.9 km **Spoilers**

blazing_saddles

phreak said:

blazing_saddles said:

phreak said:

webboo said:

It did however show Pogs not quite the superhuman that everyone seemed to believe.

Vingegaard recorded a quicker time up the mountain than Froome did in 2013, and was almost a minute faster than him from Chalet Reynard so there appear to be a lot of very fast guys at this race. Even Pogacar's "being dropped" time was comparable with Froome's time that day, which given that people seemed to regard Froome's ride that day as superhuman suggests these guys aren't doing so bad, even on apparent bad days.

You know they had mostly tailwind on the Ventoux, right?

On the last 6km was my understanding? The Guardian report from 2013 suggests they had a "howling tailwind" that day too, hence why the race finished an hour ahead of schedule.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/14/tour-de-france-2013-chris-froome-stage-15

My recollection is that they had a howling tailwind all the way to Ventoux, (Movistar drilling it for well over 200kms) but I think it was less beneficial on the climb.
According to the stage map, this is so.

phreak

blazing_saddles said:

phreak said:

blazing_saddles said:

phreak said:

webboo said:

It did however show Pogs not quite the superhuman that everyone seemed to believe.

Vingegaard recorded a quicker time up the mountain than Froome did in 2013, and was almost a minute faster than him from Chalet Reynard so there appear to be a lot of very fast guys at this race. Even Pogacar's "being dropped" time was comparable with Froome's time that day, which given that people seemed to regard Froome's ride that day as superhuman suggests these guys aren't doing so bad, even on apparent bad days.

You know they had mostly tailwind on the Ventoux, right?

On the last 6km was my understanding? The Guardian report from 2013 suggests they had a "howling tailwind" that day too, hence why the race finished an hour ahead of schedule.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/14/tour-de-france-2013-chris-froome-stage-15

My recollection is that they had a howling tailwind all the way to Ventoux, (Movistar drilling it for well over 200kms) but I think it was less beneficial on the climb.
According to the stage map, this is so.

Quite a few riders have commented on the high speed they've been racing at though, so them being super fast on the climb rather than being blown up it by the wind seems more than feasible.

davidof

Robert Millar baffled by Ineos tactics too

https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/philippa-york-after-ventoux-ineos-need-to-change-their-tour-de-france-strategy/

Lanterne_Rogue

Don't be a twat and deadname people. It's not funny, it's not clever, and it makes you look a prick.