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apols. i can only put it down to over enthusiasm and getting a bit giddy.johngti said:
You mad fool, you’ll get him squashed by a lorry. 6.89764 BAR is the only safe option for wheels of that type. 6.89746 indeed…MattFalle said:try 6.89746 BAR and see how it feels, adjust from there
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Ah, apols accepted, got to applaud your enthusiasm0
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For some strange reason, Bar is about the only metric measure I’ve never got the hang of. Still have to do the conversion to PSI for it to make any sense. 🤷🏼♂️Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0
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Just think of it like this:
Higher Bar = higher PSI = higher pressure. Easy.0 -
Well yeah that’s surprisingly obvious, but I think its mainly because it still seems rare to find a pressure gauge calibrated (solely) in kPa. The default scales are all still psi.shirley_basso said:Just think of it like this:
Higher Bar = higher PSI = higher pressure. Easy.
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TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.0 -
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanory.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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TheMF, which bit of the above is a “story?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanory
You recite your made up rubbish pertaining to “clubbies” then because my response refutes your tired old tropes about “clubbies” it transforms into a fictional “story”.
“TheMFcanttakeadifferentopiniontohisownandisalwaysrightevenwhenheiswrong2 -
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
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great dits though Andrew.andyrr said:
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanory
#ramblings
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Andrew - as an aside, did you get those HEDs of Webbos mate the aeroplane man?
#fables.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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andyrr said:
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4
You know he is just trying to wind you up, right?0 -
MF is not ACBC... and I assume neither Charlie Alliston:MattFalle said:
ooooh. the law. now we're trembling. #can'tgetmeRozzerdrhaggis said:
You legally need two independent means to brake each wheel. Regulation 6 & 7 of the Pedal Cycles Regulation 1983.MattFalle said:
why?drhaggis said:
Looking at the lack of front brakes in both bikes, you wouldn't get away with those in the UK either!focuszing723 said:
You wouldn't get away with that being a muppet on carbon rims.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1176/pdfs/uksi_19831176_en.pdf
nah, fam. the man don't stop us, or, it seems, the gazillions of people on fixies with one or no brakes.
minor laws are there for breaking - its part of life's rich tapestry.
https://road.cc/content/news/227982-london-fixed-gear-cyclist-charlie-alliston-cleared-manslaughter-pedestrian-kim
Maybe there are rules you don't want to break. Besides, if you're riding without a front brake, you're arguing with physics.0 -
What's ACBC? I know 《C》 ABCDE but not ACBC ....
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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agree that you don't want to break serious stuff but if you're going to moan at me for only having one brake on my Charge Plug fixie you've come to the wrong call sign.drhaggis said:
MF is not ACBC... and I assume neither Charlie Alliston:MattFalle said:
ooooh. the law. now we're trembling. #can'tgetmeRozzerdrhaggis said:
You legally need two independent means to brake each wheel. Regulation 6 & 7 of the Pedal Cycles Regulation 1983.MattFalle said:
why?drhaggis said:
Looking at the lack of front brakes in both bikes, you wouldn't get away with those in the UK either!focuszing723 said:
You wouldn't get away with that being a muppet on carbon rims.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1176/pdfs/uksi_19831176_en.pdf
nah, fam. the man don't stop us, or, it seems, the gazillions of people on fixies with one or no brakes.
minor laws are there for breaking - its part of life's rich tapestry.
https://road.cc/content/news/227982-london-fixed-gear-cyclist-charlie-alliston-cleared-manslaughter-pedestrian-kim
Maybe there are rules you don't want to break. Besides, if you're riding without a front brake, you're arguing with physics.
anyway, its Kermit in that piccie. i ain't arguing with Kermit. And definitly not Miss Piggy - she's well hard..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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who? Robert?First.Aspect said:andyrr said:
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4
You know he is just trying to wind you up, right?
Oh, we honestly believe - nay, know - he's a total cheesy bell end.
No denying that fact, no Siree....
#factsisfacts.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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That's you on the left, that is.MattFalle said:
who? Robert?First.Aspect said:andyrr said:
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4
You know he is just trying to wind you up, right?
Oh, we honestly believe - nay, know - he's a total cheesy bell end.
No denying that fact, no Siree....
#factsisfacts0 -
🤣🤣🤣🤣First.Aspect said:
That's you on the left, that is.MattFalle said:
who? Robert?First.Aspect said:andyrr said:
Does TheMF have problems reading and understanding sentences or paragraphs of more than 1 or 2 words? Does the dude only deal in soundbites and hashtags?MattFalle said:
great story dude. do you tell it down the club?andyrr said:
TheMF you really are a tool.MattFalle said:Ah, but its the perpetuation of a myth that people live and love to propogate.
clubbies do the same/variant of:"oh, deep rims - you'll die in a breeze. tubs: oh, you'll die if you puncture. Mudguards: you'll die if you don't have.
clubs: oh, you'll die if you're not in a club"
after a while the myths become truths and swallowed by those who tempt them.
Turn up at any race, RR or TT any it’s full of “clubbies”. Those same “clubbies” will likely be riding deep section “phat” carbon rims so it’s unlikely they’ll also then “live and love to propagate” your myth as you put it. In the past it would have been the same with tubs - it was racers who used and promoted them as the tyre of choice unless you were familiar with lots of non-competitive riders who used them for riding to work and the like? One of the significant advantages of tubs was seen as the ability to continue riding a punctured tub without it instantly becoming unsafe - relevant to bunchracing, TT’ing and maybe in particularly, track racing.
Braking certainly on carbon rims in the past in the rain used to be a hit or miss thing before improvements in brake track treatment took place - I had a set of HED rims that were plain scary in a wet RR bunch and that was with SwissStop pads. In the dry they were fine if slightly grabby.
#jackanoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4
You know he is just trying to wind you up, right?
Oh, we honestly believe - nay, know - he's a total cheesy bell end.
No denying that fact, no Siree....
#factsisfacts.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Colin Chapman, engineer and founder of Lotus Cars, of F1 fame. Full name being Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman. Now the Lotus logo makes sense!MattFalle said:What's ACBC? I know 《C》 ABCDE but not ACBC ...
And since the reference was possibly ignored by everyone, a quote typically attributed to Chapman's was Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the interpretation of smart men
N.B.: Googling to get the order right points at a couple of WWII RAF pilots being a potential source of this. Chapman did briefly join the RAF in 19480 -
drhaggis said:
Colin Chapman, engineer and founder of Lotus Cars, of F1 fame. Full name being Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman. Now the Lotus logo makes sense!MattFalle said:What's ACBC? I know 《C》 ABCDE but not ACBC ...
And since the reference was possibly ignored by everyone, a quote typically attributed to Chapman's was Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the interpretation of smart men
N.B.: Googling to get the order right points at a couple of WWII RAF pilots being a potential source of this. Chapman did briefly join the RAF in 1948
That's more cryptic than the classic game show 3--2--1. I think I've just won Dustybin.0 -
Wheels aren’t even on a week and I got complimented on my bike by a woman at the lights, who was on one of those e-scooters.
Literally never had that in 16 years riding road bikes0 -
Maybe it wasn’t your bike…0
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see? what have i been banging on about all these years and clubbies have been insulting me and saying shallow ali or disc are the way to go.rick_chasey said:Wheels aren’t even on a week and I got complimented on my bike by a woman at the lights, who was on one of those e-scooters.
Literally never had that in 16 years riding road bikes
no one ever got a stiffy over an Aksium matching clothes clubbie boys.
phat carbons rock.
listen to MF. He speaks the truth.
Now, if you would have had tubs, you'd be tucked in in bed with her now..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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To be fair to them the MFs have always said deep rims will make women swoon and fall at your feet
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veronese68 said:
To be fair to them the MFs have always said deep rims will make women swoon and fall at your feet
Apparently, so do deep pockets.0 -
i've always also said that V speaks THE TRUTH AND SENSEveronese68 said:To be fair to them the MFs have always said deep rims will make women swoon and fall at your feet
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Negated if you have short arms.masjer said:veronese68 said:To be fair to them the MFs have always said deep rims will make women swoon and fall at your feet
Apparently, so do deep pockets.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
