TDF 2021:- Stage 3, Lorient > Pontivy 182.9 km **Spoilers**

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  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    On the final sprint Nacer was in the picture, surely the Ewan / Sagan crash will be attributed to Bouhani for being near them.

    Nice whale picture!
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Reports Ewan has done a collarbone.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    edited June 2021
    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Just noticed Ewan is shown as finishing with no time gap, though 178th - implies he has at least got up and crossed the finish line under his own steam even if his tour is over.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    edited June 2021
    Edit - too much twitter
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    GC from Carapaz:

    Kelderman @ 7"
    Pogacar @ 8"
    Mas @ 10"
    Quintana @ 10"
    Gaudu @ 22"
    Chaves @ 22"
    Uran @ 22"
    Nibali @ 25"
    Fuglsang @ 25"
    Thomas @ 36"
    Roglic @ 1'-01"
    Hamilton @ 1'- 08"
    Bilbao @ 1'-13"
    Buchmann @ 2'-02"
    G Martin @ 2'-02"
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    salsiccia1 said:

    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that

    He was trying to reclaim the wheel that Sagan had bounced him off a bit earlier. It looks like he was so focused on that he didn't notice Merlier move.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    It looks like Ewan gets himself on the right of Meliers back wheel and realises he’s not got a lot of room between himself and the barrier. Then he seems to move left and touches the wheel.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Cheers
    TheBigBean said:

    salsiccia1 said:

    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that

    He was trying to reclaim the wheel that Sagan had bounced him off a bit earlier. It looks like he was so focused on that he didn't notice Merlier move.
    Cheers. The only bit of it I've seen is the short clip in this thread. So 6 of one etc?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    blazing_saddles said:

    GC from Carapaz:

    Kelderman @ 7"
    Pogacar @ 8"
    Mas @ 10"
    Quintana @ 10"
    Gaudu @ 22"
    Chaves @ 22"
    Uran @ 22"
    Nibali @ 25"
    Fuglsang @ 25"
    Thomas @ 36"
    Roglic @ 1'-01"
    Hamilton @ 1'- 08"
    Bilbao @ 1'-13"
    Buchmann @ 2'-02"
    G Martin @ 2'-02"

    That looks incredibly positive for Geraint all things considered. Assuming Roglic is able to continue he's going to have to find a new tactic which could be interesting, watching Pogacar and fighting him for bonus seconds isn't going to work now and I suspect he's going to be a bit sore in the TT.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    mididoctors said:

    _springclassic said:

    From the overhead it looked like Sagan bumped Ewan and then he lost his wheel taking Sagan down.

    Ewan was trapped against the barriers and moved left clipping the wheel.in front I think
    That was how I saw it too.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited June 2021
    salsiccia1 said:

    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that



    Yeah, after looking at it. He's following the riders in front who are going right towards the barriers. Ewan looks squeezed but probably because he's trying to not get boxed.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Schelling rolled in second last and even claimed 20 bonus seconds from somewhere or other (at least I'm fairly sure it's a penalty). Absolute superstar.


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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    edited June 2021
    Looks like Merlier stopped pedalling for a split second to move to the right, and Ewan just lost his front wheel by trying to move to his left. Sagan was just there.

    From the head on, it doesn't look like there was a touch of wheels, Ewan just suddenly turns left.

    Maybe there was actually.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    salsiccia1 said:

    Cheers

    TheBigBean said:

    salsiccia1 said:

    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that

    He was trying to reclaim the wheel that Sagan had bounced him off a bit earlier. It looks like he was so focused on that he didn't notice Merlier move.
    Cheers. The only bit of it I've seen is the short clip in this thread. So 6 of one etc?
    Well, Ewan wiped them both out and Sagan didn't do that, so I would say 100% Ewan's fault, but the griping is about the way Sagan is always bouncing riders around and he does that in this sprint too. This time he didn't cause any accidents though.

  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    salsiccia1 said:

    Does Sagan do a lot wrong there? He's just following the wheel, isn't he, and then Ewan tries to push in? Or am I really misreading that

    He didn't do anything wrong for the actual crash, but he was barging people out of the way prior to that.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Roglic might be out, seems he may have fractured his coccyx
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Roglic might be out, seems he may have fractured his coccyx

    That's a real shame. Don't think he did anything wrong either, just got ridden into by Colbrelli.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451
    I can't see that Ewan did much wrong there TBH, the guy in second wheel moves across and leaves him nowhere to go
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Ewan didn't finish, he's done his collarbone and went off in an ambulance. Didn't need to technically cross the line, was placed last and given time of the group he was with
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Cavendish's wheel broke in the incidents so he couldn't get involved in the sprint.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Mørkøv says none of DQS tasted tarmac today, which is impressive.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Thought it was still a DNF if you didn't cross the line, regardless of where it was?

    Convinced Cavendish said he'd just seen Ewan coming across the line and he didn't look good, but I suppose Cavendish might have meant as he (Cav) was coming in rather than Ewan.
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  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,756
    Well it seems as though everyone involved is thoroughly annoyed with today’s stage, except for Alpecin.

    Have to feel very sad for those that sustained injuries. The kids were watching after school and aren’t too keen on watching again after seeing how Roglic ended up looking.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    Thought it was still a DNF if you didn't cross the line, regardless of where it was?

    Convinced Cavendish said he'd just seen Ewan coming across the line and he didn't look good, but I suppose Cavendish might have meant as he (Cav) was coming in rather than Ewan.

    I did too - maybe just an automatic thing when they moved his bike and the transponder registered ?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Lotto have confirmed Ewan is out of the race
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    Thought it was still a DNF if you didn't cross the line, regardless of where it was?

    Convinced Cavendish said he'd just seen Ewan coming across the line and he didn't look good, but I suppose Cavendish might have meant as he (Cav) was coming in rather than Ewan.

    I did too - maybe just an automatic thing when they moved his bike and the transponder registered ?
    I always thought the same but apparently not


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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    The rules changed at some point. Abdu cross the line in the 90s in order to win green and looking back it is not sensible.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    kingstongraham said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    Roglic might be out, seems he may have fractured his coccyx

    That's a real shame. Don't think he did anything wrong either, just got ridden into by Colbrelli.
    He's banged up but nothing broken, he'll start tomorrow.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    Thought it was still a DNF if you didn't cross the line, regardless of where it was?

    Convinced Cavendish said he'd just seen Ewan coming across the line and he didn't look good, but I suppose Cavendish might have meant as he (Cav) was coming in rather than Ewan.

    I did too - maybe just an automatic thing when they moved his bike and the transponder registered ?
    I always thought the same but apparently not


    Ah, y'know what - I think this came up as a potential loophole in the LR, now I see that tweet, as I was joking about Valls having found the loopholes of all loopholes to gain infinite time:

    I'm kind of torn here, because although I do think you're right, I also think that finding a loophole whereby you can be infinitely delayed but never officially timed out is an absolute Lanterne power move. Like a Japanese soldier bravely fighting the second world war alone on some godforsaken coral atoll into the 1970s, Valls is metaphorically still out there somewhere on the course. Although unlike the Japanese soldier it appears he won't be running short of soap, so that's something.
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