TDF 2021:- Stage 3, Lorient > Pontivy 182.9 km **Spoilers**

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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Once someone touches wheels and goes down on a downhill corner there'll be absolute chaos behind. I'm not sure it would have been any better if there were fewer riders up front, in terms of what happened next (speed, inability to change line mid-corner, and downhill reducing braking effect), but you can argue it increases the chance of someone going down in the first place.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Pross said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Overhead footage of the crash 4km to go on here at 10 seconds in. Touch of wheels.

    So the one crash that may have been down to the road layout was actually another incidence of rider error? The riders all look to have a decent amount of space there and no-one seemed to be forced into a change of line by the road width reducing.
    Isn't that the point though, finishes like this where it narrows into corners at the sharp end of the stage make wheel touches etc. more likely - the road layout forces the issue. I agree with KG on that one - looked inevitable to me.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Vingegaard says he doesn't know why van Aert wasn't called back for Roglic, it was all hectic and he didn't hear the instructions.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    What they need is the perpetual threat of ducks crossing their paths. It certainly keeps your eyes peeled and makes you ride more safely.
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    bobmcstuff said:

    DeVlaeminck said:


    Comparing to going back 15 years plus - Id be interested if helmet use brought in a degree of risk compensation. I'm not arguing for scrapping helmets I know that ship has sailed long ago but there is some research (some even addresses bicycle helmets) suggesting safety measures like helmets and seat belts can lead to more risk taking.

    I've seen some of that for ski helmets, I think the problem with a lot of that research compares the same people before and after the intervention (i.e., going from no ski helmet to ski helmet), which tends to lead to some risk compensation. Similar with some avalanche safety measures.

    Whereas most of the current peloton has probably barely ridden a bike without a helmet on (I know I haven't - and never driven without a seatbelt), and if it's something you've always grown up with then the level of risk compensation would be different.
    The no helmet "solution" will never work in the real world, because when a crash does happen (even if less frequent) the chance of the rider dying is simply rather high.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    above_the_cows said:

    What they need is the perpetual threat of ducks crossing their paths. It certainly keeps your eyes peeled and makes you ride more safely.

    See also, squirrels 😮
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    Dogs have made appearances in the past...
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  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,215
    pblakeney said:

    Dogs have made appearances in the past...

    Cows too... feat. Warren Barguil


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