The Pre-Tour de France thread v2.0

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    That's two Herne Hill alumni making their Tour debuts this year then.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    RichN95. said:

    A surprise selection by Bahrain with the omission of Padun

    Maybe they don't trust him either.

    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    RichN95. said:

    A surprise selection by Bahrain with the omission of Padun, but good news for British fans as Fred Wright gets picked.

    Poels, Wright, Colbrelli, Haig, Haller, Mohoric, Teuns, Bilbao

    Strange choice, weren't the bookies convinced Padun was among the favourites?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Pross said:

    RichN95. said:

    A surprise selection by Bahrain with the omission of Padun, but good news for British fans as Fred Wright gets picked.

    Poels, Wright, Colbrelli, Haig, Haller, Mohoric, Teuns, Bilbao

    Strange choice, weren't the bookies convinced Padun was among the favourites?
    The bookies were convinced that some money had been placed on him and adjusted the odds accordingly
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    Well someone got excited off the back of a couple of good rides at the Dauphine when he had lost a stack of time early on.

    I am genuinely surprised he isn't going to the Tour though, would have been a good shout for the KoM jersey.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Simon Yates is in the Bike Exchange team which surprises me. It also means no Yates v Yates at the Vuelta probably.

    Other British riders: C.Swift and McLay in the Arkea team.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    gsk82 said:

    RichN95. said:

    British riders

    Definite: Thomas, G-Hart
    Likely: Rowe, Froome, C.Swift
    Possibles: Cavendish

    Anyone else?

    Simon Yates?
    So far we have:

    Arkea-Samsic: Swift and McLay
    Bahrain: Wright
    Bike Exchange: Yates
    Ineos: TGH, Rowe and Thomas
    ISN: Froome

    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.

  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    andyp said:



    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.


    Simon Carr must have a shot of making the EF team.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:



    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.


    Simon Carr must have a shot of making the EF team.
    Has he confirmed his nationality yet?
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    gsk82 said:

    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:



    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.


    Simon Carr must have a shot of making the EF team.
    Has he confirmed his nationality yet?

    He has two, but currently uses the UK one for cycling. I don't think he has changed recently.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    A number of teams have confirmed their line ups, today.


    AG2R CITROEN TEAM

    COSNEFROY Benoit
    GODON Dorian
    NAESEN Oliver
    O'CONNOR Ben Alexander
    PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
    PETERS Nans
    SCHÄR Michael
    VAN AVERMAET Greg

    ALPECIN-FENIX

    DILLIER Silvan
    MERLIER Tim
    MEURISSE Xandro
    PHILIPSEN Jasper
    RICKAERT Jonas
    SBARAGLI Kristian
    VAKOC Petr
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu


    ASTANA – PREMIER TECH

    ARANBURU DEBA Alex
    DE BOD Stefan
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
    FUGLSANG Jakob
    GRUZDEV Dmitriy
    HOULE Hugo
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
    LUTSENKO Alexey


    B&B HOTELS P/B KTM

    BARTHE Cyril
    BONNAMOUR Franck
    CHEVALIER Maxime
    COQUARD Bryan
    GAUTIER Cyril
    LEMOINE Cyril
    PACHER Quentin
    ROLLAND Pierre

    GROUPAMA - FDJ

    ARMIRAIL Bruno
    DEMARE Arnaud
    GAUDU David
    GUARNIERI Jacopo
    KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
    KÜNG Stefan
    MADOUAS Valentin
    SCOTSON Miles

    MOVISTAR TEAM

    ARCAS PEÑA Jorge
    ERVITI Imanol
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
    LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel
    MAS NICOLAU Enric
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
    VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos

    TEAM ARKÉA - SAMSIC

    BARGUIL Warren
    BOUHANNI Nacer
    DELAPLACE Anthony
    GESBERT Elie
    MCLAY Daniel
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
    RUSSO Clement
    SWIFT Connor

    TEAM BIKEEXCHANGE

    CHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban
    DURBRIDGE Luke
    HAMILTON Lucas
    JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
    JUUL JENSEN Christopher
    MATTHEWS Michael
    MEZGEC Luka
    YATES Simon
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  • neonriver
    neonriver Posts: 228
    Cavendish in and no Bennett for quickstep
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    That's huge news
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Wow
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Madness.

    I am glad. Current peloton is a bit short of people with a character that cuts through onto the screen.

    Cav not winning is as good a story as Cav winning, haha
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    andyp said:



    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.

    :dizzy:

    Glad this didn’t come to be. Happy to see Cav in.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Why does he present his statement as though it is a terrible poem?
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Oh my word. Gutted for Bennett, but really looking forward to seeing one of the World's craftiest sprinters lead out by the best leadout in the peloton.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:



    That's the most British starters since 2017, when ten riders started. Nine teams left to still confirm their start list, unlikely that any more Brits will make it.


    Simon Carr must have a shot of making the EF team.
    I'd be surprised if they made him ride back-to-back GTs in his first year in the WT. But going on how my prediction above aged today, I'll pipe down. :/
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    andyp said:



    I'd be surprised if they made him ride back-to-back GTs in his first year in the WT. But going on how my prediction above aged today, I'll pipe down. :/


    I forgot he was at the Giro to be fair.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Still trying to process the Cavendish news, if I'm honest. Shame for Bennett, but Cavendish's return to some sort of form has been one of the feelgood stories of the season - mostly because he seems to be having a whale of a time doing it. And he's serious box office still, isn't he?

    The real loser might not be Bennett but Fabio Jakobsen, who was down for the Vuelta and who I guess now risks being bumped.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Savage
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Reading the article (via Google translate), it sounds like there's been a breakdown of trust in the messages Bennett was giving the team about his fitness.

    It also adds a bit more meaning to the comments about not taking Cavendish as a wild-card extra sprinter as it'd unsettle Bennett - were they already thinking he was a bit fragile?
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    edited June 2021
    Not entirely sure why Lefevere has to go through the media with that. Seems like something they could hash out privately. Lefevere doesn't seem like a "cover your ass" type person. Maybe he is trying to motivate Bennett indirectly, because there is a breakdown in direct communication?
    Seems harsh and somewhat unjustified looking at Bennett bringing in decent results rather consistently.

    Love it for Cavendish. Will definitely make the Tour even more special.
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