Man vs goose
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As I said, get them into a sleeper hold.....DeVlaeminck said:Teach your children, practice this often so it becomes second nature.
"The recommended survival technique for an attacking 'domesticated' dog (extrapolation is necessary, for obvious reasons) is to offer the forearm, then use the free arm to secure the back of the animal's head. The legs are then wrapped around the canine's torso and the animal rolled onto its back. Ordinarily a dog will, at this point, attempt to dislodge the forearm from its mouth and get back to its feet. With proper resolve, the animal can be held in place and the bitten arm shifted so that a fist can be pushed into the dog's throat and esophagus. With only a few inches insertion, respiration can be profoundly restricted, causing the dog to expire within 30 seconds to a minute."
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This is some very good advice and i will print it out and laminate it.DeVlaeminck said:Teach your children, practice this often so it becomes second nature.
"The recommended survival technique for an attacking 'domesticated' dog (extrapolation is necessary, for obvious reasons) is to offer the forearm, then use the free arm to secure the back of the animal's head. The legs are then wrapped around the canine's torso and the animal rolled onto its back. Ordinarily a dog will, at this point, attempt to dislodge the forearm from its mouth and get back to its feet. With proper resolve, the animal can be held in place and the bitten arm shifted so that a fist can be pushed into the dog's throat and esophagus. With only a few inches insertion, respiration can be profoundly restricted, causing the dog to expire within 30 seconds to a minute."
I have a large field out the back with lot's of dog walkers how should I entice them (dogs not the owners) to attack me? Would tying bacon to my forearm be classified the same as a lawnmower?0 -
sorry - you're saying someone is gonna win against a police dog?DeVlaeminck said:I'm going to stick up for censored sapiens here - assuming the person is male, maybe 30 years old, trained to some extent or at least physically strong and lacking in fear - or at least uses that fear they aren't going to panic.
I reckon in a fight to the death I'd back the person over a German Shepherd. Not saying it's a foregone conclusion by any means but you've got a weight advantage, you've got human intelligence, hands, elbows, knees, head.
Now there are breeds like some of the flock guardian breeds that are huge where I'd accept the human would probably lose but against a police dog - German shepherd or big malinois - not sure - that said I wouldn't volunteer to find out.
really?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Isn't it kind of the point of a police dog that they are trained to take you down?0
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Yes, not to fight to the death though.kingstongraham said:Isn't it kind of the point of a police dog that they are trained to take you down?
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I think you'd call submission first.TheBigBean said:
Yes, not to fight to the death though.kingstongraham said:Isn't it kind of the point of a police dog that they are trained to take you down?
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those ones are sneaky, doing the old crouch behind the victim so your mate can push him overMattFalle said:
sorry - you're saying someone is gonna win against a police dog?DeVlaeminck said:I'm going to stick up for censored sapiens here - assuming the person is male, maybe 30 years old, trained to some extent or at least physically strong and lacking in fear - or at least uses that fear they aren't going to panic.
I reckon in a fight to the death I'd back the person over a German Shepherd. Not saying it's a foregone conclusion by any means but you've got a weight advantage, you've got human intelligence, hands, elbows, knees, head.
Now there are breeds like some of the flock guardian breeds that are huge where I'd accept the human would probably lose but against a police dog - German shepherd or big malinois - not sure - that said I wouldn't volunteer to find out.
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But they’re also very effective when doing it in a controlled and trained manner.kingstongraham said:Isn't it kind of the point of a police dog that they are trained to take you down?
Our dog tacklers on here may be facing an untrained headcase of a dog going for anything it can sink it’s teeth into.
If 100 people tried it, I would expect some to survive but I think luck would play a big part in deciding who.
Reps down the gym probably wouldn’t be the decider.0 -
A big working line German shepherd is about 80lbs so fairly big but if we are talking about a 200lb man well used to fighting.
Let's not do ourselves down here !![Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
That sort of hard as nails scrapper is the sort of person who stands a chance.DeVlaeminck said:A big working line German shepherd is about 80lbs so fairly big but if we are talking about a 200lb man well used to fighting.
Let's not do ourselves down here !!
They’re a smaller part of the population than the percentages returned.
I think you’ve got a load of gym goers who think they’re hard as nails saying, I could have it. I think they’re wrong.
Attrition will be significant. A scrap is knackering.0 -
True but it says big dog and we've used a trained German shepherd as the example - we could have said Labrador or a deerhound - so I think it's fair to choose a reasonably good fighter.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Question was "which of these do you think you could beat in a fight?"DeVlaeminck said:True but it says big dog and we've used a trained German shepherd as the example - we could have said Labrador or a deerhound - so I think it's fair to choose a reasonably good fighter.
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pub scrapper vs labradorDeVlaeminck said:True but it says big dog and we've used a trained German shepherd as the example - we could have said Labrador or a deerhound - so I think it's fair to choose a reasonably good fighter.
Pub doorman vs GSD
of course the pub scrapper would demand to fight the GSD because it was umanly to fight the labrador
I would be vey disappointed if I was killed by a labrador0 -
DeVlaeminck said:
A big working line German shepherd is about 80lbs so fairly big but if we are talking about a 200lb man well used to fighting.
Let's not do ourselves down here !!
my money is on the dog.DeVlaeminck said:A big working line German shepherd is about 80lbs so fairly big but if we are talking about a 200lb man well used to fighting.
Let's not do ourselves down here !!
every
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5930275/amp/Hero-SAS-dog-saves-lives-six-elite-soldiers-Syria-ripping-jihadis-throat.html.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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see the above post from MF.morstar said:
That sort of hard as nails scrapper is the sort of person who stands a chance.DeVlaeminck said:A big working line German shepherd is about 80lbs so fairly big but if we are talking about a 200lb man well used to fighting.
Let's not do ourselves down here !!
They’re a smaller part of the population than the percentages returned.
I think you’ve got a load of gym goers who think they’re hard as nails saying, I could have it. I think they’re wrong.
Attrition will be significant. A scrap is knackering.
Terry Talib are quite good at fighting and they had guns.
It didn't end too well..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I was thinking I'd read something like this in a book, but it was a work of fiction and the guy was being attacked by a big cat. Interesting to know the author had done some research then. I remember thinking at the time you wouldn't have much arm left poking it down a big cat's throat. I don't mean a Maine Coon.DeVlaeminck said:Teach your children, practice this often so it becomes second nature.
"The recommended survival technique for an attacking 'domesticated' dog (extrapolation is necessary, for obvious reasons) is to offer the forearm, then use the free arm to secure the back of the animal's head. The legs are then wrapped around the canine's torso and the animal rolled onto its back. Ordinarily a dog will, at this point, attempt to dislodge the forearm from its mouth and get back to its feet. With proper resolve, the animal can be held in place and the bitten arm shifted so that a fist can be pushed into the dog's throat and esophagus. With only a few inches insertion, respiration can be profoundly restricted, causing the dog to expire within 30 seconds to a minute."0 -
I took 4 stitches to the face from our loving pet Alsatian that was close to dying and was just saying "leave me alone". It happened very fast. I wouldn't want to tackle a healthy angry threatened one.DeVlaeminck said:True but it says big dog and we've used a trained German shepherd as the example - we could have said Labrador or a deerhound - so I think it's fair to choose a reasonably good fighter.
Reminds me. Leaving school one day we saw the results of a boy getting caught by one when nicking some apples. His leg was ripped to shreds with blood everywhere. Stuck with me for over 50 years that has.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
my money is on the dog, but if DeV wants to have a pop at it I'll bring my school bag along for him
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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if you have an SAS dog then surely it has to fight an SAS manMattFalle said:
my money is on the dog, but if DeV wants to have a pop at it I'll bring my school bag along for him
does the dog still win?0 -
Are people who suggest being able to take on a police dog over looking the simple logic that the very reason they use them is because they invariably always win?0
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yes.surrey_commuter said:
if you have an SAS dog then surely it has to fight an SAS manMattFalle said:
my money is on the dog, but if DeV wants to have a pop at it I'll bring my school bag along for him
does the dog still win?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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well a quick Google suggests a 16 year old boy won against a police dogverylonglegs said:Are people who suggest being able to take on a police dog over looking the simple logic that the very reason they use them is because they invariably always win?
https://people.com/crime/16-year-old-arrested-charged-after-allegedly-beating-police-dog-to-death/
and this chap seems to have fought a horse and a dog, though did not kill either
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/police-appeal-man-beat-horse-and-dog-in-shocking-and-barbaric-assault-7379970 -
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well a quick Google suggests a 16 year old boy won against a police dogverylonglegs said:Are people who suggest being able to take on a police dog over looking the simple logic that the very reason they use them is because they invariably always win?
https://people.com/crime/16-year-old-arrested-charged-after-allegedly-beating-police-dog-to-death/
and this chap seems to have fought a horse and a dog, though did not kill either
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/police-appeal-man-beat-horse-and-dog-in-shocking-and-barbaric-assault-737997
your post is a very very poor attempt at humour, yeah?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Right, I'm off to find a goose.0
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A spade is an alternative. Messes up your lino, though.MattFalle said:Terrier are good at that sort of thing however I'm not really into rolling around on the floor biting rats.
Put a terrier into a scrap with a rat the size of a cat or a farm rat/ooloo (sic) rat then its a different story I would say.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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therefore the 50 cal.rjsterry said:
A spade is an alternative. Messes up your lino, though.MattFalle said:Terrier are good at that sort of thing however I'm not really into rolling around on the floor biting rats.
Put a terrier into a scrap with a rat the size of a cat or a farm rat/ooloo (sic) rat then its a different story I would say.
less effort as well.
winner winner (very very very small remains of) rat for dinner.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Dog "thanks, thats me handled, your turn now, just pop it in here"MattFalle said:0 -
I remember years ago when I was in the RAF opening the inner door to our building entrance to find a growling RAF police Alsatian staring back at me from within the security entrance. I shut the door rather quickly!. The handler thought it was a good place to leave the dog whilst he went to the toilet .......but didn’t warn anyone.seanoconn said:
It’s just yawning. Bet it’s a big softie really.MattFalle said:
my money is on the dog, but if DeV wants to have a pop at it I'll bring my school bag along for him
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