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Ice hockey ditches a man for extra time but the unbounded overtime that used to be a staple of the sport did lead to some very late nights. This is the biggest practical problem with it as transport shuts down.0
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Was offside, but I don't understand the handball rules any more, I think.ddraver said:Hmmm, that VAR thing seems tad controversial...
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By how much? I think offside VAR is ruining the game. There's a reason the rules were changed such that level is onside.kingstongraham said:
Was offside, but I don't understand the handball rules any more, I think.ddraver said:Hmmm, that VAR thing seems tad controversial...
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Sure, but don't blame VAR if you don't like the rules. Change the rules.TheBigBean said:
By how much? I think offside VAR is ruining the game. There's a reason the rules were changed such that level is onside.kingstongraham said:
Was offside, but I don't understand the handball rules any more, I think.ddraver said:Hmmm, that VAR thing seems tad controversial...
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kingstongraham said:
Sure, but don't blame VAR if you don't like the rules. Change the rules.TheBigBean said:
By how much? I think offside VAR is ruining the game. There's a reason the rules were changed such that level is onside.kingstongraham said:
Was offside, but I don't understand the handball rules any more, I think.ddraver said:Hmmm, that VAR thing seems tad controversial...
Firstly, I've advocated that for a long time. It should be based on torsos. Secondly, whether a decision is overturned is a matter for VAR implementation. Cricket has dealt with exactly this issue by using "umpire's call". It works.kingstongraham said:
Sure, but don't blame VAR if you don't like the rules. Change the rules.TheBigBean said:
By how much? I think offside VAR is ruining the game. There's a reason the rules were changed such that level is onside.kingstongraham said:
Was offside, but I don't understand the handball rules any more, I think.ddraver said:Hmmm, that VAR thing seems tad controversial...
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Having now seen it. He was level and onside in my view.0
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Yes, with different rules, he would be.0
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You're that confident with the frame rate and the lines drawn on the video? A lot can happen in one frame. Again, something I've learnt from cricket.kingstongraham said:Yes, with different rules, he would be.
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With that one, I was when I saw it, yes. There are others where you can't tell because of the frame rate and when the ball leaves the foot.TheBigBean said:
You're that confident with the frame rate and the lines drawn on the video? A lot can happen in one frame. Again, something I've learnt from cricket.kingstongraham said:Yes, with different rules, he would be.
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Error range of tech Is between 13cm and 30cm.
This is a longer version of my opinion.
https://www.footballcritic.com/features/var-represents-the-first-regressive-change-to-offside-in-football-history-67801-39390-79784-76863-84510-93553/181
If this was all decided in a court, a judge would need to consider what was meant by "level" when the rules were changed. At some microscopic detail, nothing is level, so the meaning needs to be interpreted.0 -
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Moneyball = barrow loads of dosh from global broadcasting / streaming providers.
So how does moneyball arrange their product to fit with timelines and schedules if the duration and end point is elastic and indeterminate?
'Snot sport. It's product.0 -
Eurosport used to manage this situation by continuing showing the tennis and cancelling the cycling. Bigger product wins.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Re. VAR I thought yesterday it worked perfectly. To me it looked offside to the naked eye if you freeze frame it, VAR confirmed it and it was the correct decision.
The only argument against it imo us that it kills spontaneity when you have to wait for a decision - that's largely for fans in the stadium and players though - watching a game on TV for me it just adds to the interest as well as being far more accurate.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Yeah, that's my biggest bugbear, it kills the excitement and celebrations. I thought it was onside too to the naked eye. I thought it was only supposed to be for clear and obvious mis-calls? If they have to to the extent of suggesting an armpit is a mm offside then it's not clear and obvious, but rather looking for any excuse to rule out a goal.DeVlaeminck said:Re. VAR I thought yesterday it worked perfectly. To me it looked offside to the naked eye if you freeze frame it, VAR confirmed it and it was the correct decision.
The only argument against it imo us that it kills spontaneity when you have to wait for a decision - that's largely for fans in the stadium and players though - watching a game on TV for me it just adds to the interest as well as being far more accurate.0 -
For all the deserved complaints about VAR the penalty awarded to Morecambe against Newport County in the League 2 play-off today was a reminder of how bad decisions can be when there is no VAR available.0
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Harry Kane has apparently gone missing from training for Spurs, seeking to force through a move to Man City.0
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Not sure what I think of that - I guess if he did have a gentleman's agreement with Levy it's fair enough but nobody forced him to sign a contract.
He has to move now though if he wants to play for a top side while he's in his prime. Tottenham do not look like a side on an upward trajectory.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Barca have announced that Messi will be leaving the club having not agreed a new deal.
City have signed Grealish in other news0 -
Barca have been told they cannot sign new players or renew existing contracts without reducing their wage bill by La Liga. Subtle but important perspective difference.elbowloh said:Barca have announced that Messi will be leaving the club having not agreed a new deal.
City have signed Grealish in other newsThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It's incredible how they could get themselves into this financial situation.pblakeney said:
Barca have been told they cannot sign new players or renew existing contracts without reducing their wage bill by La Liga. Subtle but important perspective difference.elbowloh said:Barca have announced that Messi will be leaving the club having not agreed a new deal.
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Barca €1.2bn in debt. Moneyball eh?0
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They certainly didn't practice moneyball! Look at the Dembele and Coutinho signings for a start. Then include buying Griezeman and playing him in the wrong position.orraloon said:Barca €1.2bn in debt. Moneyball eh?
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Messi rumoured to only have one concrete offer - from Man C.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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The messi thing is odd.
I know he earns a lot but he’s earned enough that whatever happens it is not remotely life changing.
Why would he want to leave Barcalona (as in the city) where he is a god to move to rainy old Manchester where he has to live up to the dizzying heights he set himself with an ageing body, in a league which might take a year or so to adjust to (or not, he is messi after all) For what, a few more mill?
Maybe it is just about the money.
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