Ardennes* races **Spoilers**
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Well I hope the people operating it have far more idea than those operating VAR; one hopes they are, but I've lost trust in officials to get anything right.....lettingthedaysgoby said:
The finish line tech is well established and available to those operating it pretty much instantly. We may not have seen it but the race control people will.andyrac said:About as conclusive as VAR; when they're showing lines, I just roll my eyes....."Here we go again".
All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
That was a good race - better than I was expecting.0
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I wouldn't judge other sports by using football as the baseline.andyrac said:
Well I hope the people operating it have far more idea than those operating VAR; one hopes they are, but I've lost trust in officials to get anything right.....lettingthedaysgoby said:
The finish line tech is well established and available to those operating it pretty much instantly. We may not have seen it but the race control people will.andyrac said:About as conclusive as VAR; when they're showing lines, I just roll my eyes....."Here we go again".
They seem to be going out of their way to get it removed. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for showWarning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
So what's the consensus on the Amstel Gold Kermesse now that they mucked around with it? Or was it mucked around with because of Covid mitigation?
Although it was an exciting finish, I wasn't keen on it.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Possibly influenced by the race but I thought it was a decent circuit.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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So, who's gonna win up the Muur on Wednesday then?
Not as obvious to call as previous years.
Noted Valverde was still there in 5th on Sunday...0 -
AGR goes round in circles all the time. It really didn't bother me at all. The only time I thought of it was when it was mentioned in commentary. Limburg isn't very big. Any ~200Km route is going to repeat a lot of stuff.pinno said:So what's the consensus on the Amstel Gold Kermesse now that they mucked around with it? Or was it mucked around with because of Covid mitigation?
Although it was an exciting finish, I wasn't keen on it.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I assume it was a Covid measure. Created a decent race though I thought, plenty of aggresive riding in the final 50km after the attrition the circuit created. Saw some fairly decent riders, albeit not in the best of form, getting dropped quite early.pinno said:So what's the consensus on the Amstel Gold Kermesse now that they mucked around with it? Or was it mucked around with because of Covid mitigation?
Although it was an exciting finish, I wasn't keen on it.0 -
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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No_Ta_Doctor said:
Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
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As bonkers as it was, ELB's not contractually obliged to lead out a faster sprinter - Niewiadoma is every bit as much to blame for what happened.ddraver said:Having seen the women's now I'm astounded Katarzyna didn't ride behind Elina hurling a stream of abuse at her...
That was utterly idiotic!0 -
This straight line, which has been helpfully drawn on top, doesn't look very straight to me.RichN95. said:No_Ta_Doctor said:Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
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Road is clearly not flat. Drops off a fair bit either side.TheBigBean said:
This straight line, which has been helpfully drawn on top, doesn't look very straight to me.RichN95. said:No_Ta_Doctor said:Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
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I'd have thought ELB would have the edge in a sprint against Niewiadoma.Lanterne_Rogue said:
As bonkers as it was, ELB's not contractually obliged to lead out a faster sprinter - Niewiadoma is every bit as much to blame for what happened.ddraver said:Having seen the women's now I'm astounded Katarzyna didn't ride behind Elina hurling a stream of abuse at her...
That was utterly idiotic!
But to not even want to try... 🤯We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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The photo finish camera is between the struts of the gantry, yes?RichN95. said:No_Ta_Doctor said:Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
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The above photo is enlightening. Much at the time was made of Pidcock coming up faster but WvA is clearly in front after the line indicating this not to be the case.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
And? The fact that the camera is in between two struts suggests they are not parallel. And the gantry is positioned just before the finish linekingstongraham said:
The photo finish camera is between the struts of the gantry, yes?Twitter: @RichN950 -
Camera is on a tripod mounted on the roof, no?
Although how the tripod is in front of one horizontal support but behind the other confuses me. 🤔The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
This is cycling through remember which is pretty much the most amateur ‘professional’ sport going. So many gaffes it’s unreal, I'm not sure I’d trust them to get a decision that comes down to millimetres or even a fraction of a millimetre on setup correct.RichN95. said:No_Ta_Doctor said:Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
To be fair though, if I was Pidcock I’d be more annoyed with myself for the fact that he was clearly the strongest on the day and should have either sprinted earlier, or quite possibly just ridden them off his wheel with a couple of km to go.1 -
You can't argue whether the photo finish picture has yellow, green and grey rather than red, though?0
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I'm glad Wout sprinted for the photo finish line anyway.0
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Thanks! I'd have thought the struts would be at the same elevation in that configuration though. Not a small hill I'm wanting to die on. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Round the houses is fine for me good racepinno said:So what's the consensus on the Amstel Gold Kermesse now that they mucked around with it? Or was it mucked around with because of Covid mitigation?
Although it was an exciting finish, I wasn't keen on it."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Pidcock was insanely fast when he spun up the cadence on the drags .norvernrob said:
This is cycling through remember which is pretty much the most amateur ‘professional’ sport going. So many gaffes it’s unreal, I'm not sure I’d trust them to get a decision that comes down to millimetres or even a fraction of a millimetre on setup correct.RichN95. said:No_Ta_Doctor said:Looks like the photo finish wasn't correctly aligned. The background shows an ad hoarding before the black line.
No scope for any appeal though, as the photo finish is the sole measure of the finish, road markings are just for show
There are two possibilities here:
1. Professionals who have done this a hundred times before set it up wrong
2. Someone on twitter has no idea what they are talking about
To be fair though, if I was Pidcock I’d be more annoyed with myself for the fact that he was clearly the strongest on the day and should have either sprinted earlier, or quite possibly just ridden them off his wheel with a couple of km to go."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Felt less tough than other editions - pros seem to say the same.mididoctors said:
Round the houses is fine for me good racepinno said:So what's the consensus on the Amstel Gold Kermesse now that they mucked around with it? Or was it mucked around with because of Covid mitigation?
Although it was an exciting finish, I wasn't keen on it.0
