Strade Bianchi ***Spoilers***

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,932
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    Outstanding race, outstanding quality firstly in the selection, then contesting the victory.
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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    fantastic race and after the last hill acceleration that was odds on. He must have been super confident.

    what a contrast spinning bernal and MONSTER Power smash. This is a superb race.

    I think I like it more than Flanders and PR. possibly because its played out over a shorter period of time and things change quickly so I can fit it in a day and still do other stuff.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,309
    That last climb is intriguing because its just one punch, all in. There's no chance to ramp it up slowly, there's no chance to come back and counter.

    Anyway, Tao and Matt Stephens did a watch along on the Ineos Insta for the last hour. Well worth the watch. Tao is a real student of cycling, watches like a fan, but with the insight of a rider. he'd make a great commentator one day.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMFRbJrADA-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196

    That last climb is intriguing because its just one punch, all in. There's no chance to ramp it up slowly, there's no chance to come back and counter.

    Anyway, Tao and Matt Stephens did a watch along on the Ineos Insta for the last hour. Well worth the watch. Tao is a real student of cycling, watches like a fan, but with the insight of a rider. he'd make a great commentator one day.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMFRbJrADA-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    Thanks! I saw they'd gone live but I was busy watching the race so I ignored it...
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,918
    That was seriously impressive from MvdP.
    Great to see Bernal at the head of the race.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited March 2021
    Ah...Tao didnt realise that wasnt such a good angle eh?



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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    WTAF
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,150
    ddraver said:

    Ah...Tao didnt realise that wasnt such a good angle eh?



    (Edit - I had to learn HTML to make it smaller. Soz david)


    What the hell is that? It look like something out a David Cronenberg film
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,002
    Just watched on catchup - that was fantastic.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    edited March 2021
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    Ah...Tao didnt realise that wasnt such a good angle eh?



    (Edit - I had to learn HTML to make it smaller. Soz david)


    What the hell is that? It look like something out a David Cronenberg film
    The inside of a nose.

    Quite beautiful if you think about it...

    (be thankful I didn't choose the one I found with a tooth growing inside of it... 🥴 )
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,484
    Such a great race, seeing a diminutive Tour winner in contention with a big Classics specialist is what makes it a special race for me.

    MvdP's power was frightening, I thought his first attack might have been his one big effort but the second was even more impressive. Great to see Bernal back to full form and he really surprise me closing the gap to JA and MvdP on the flat. Really good ride from Gogl too.

    I was surprised that of the front 7 it was Pidcock who seemed to struggle the most on the climbs, I thought they would suit him but a 5th to follow the 3rd at KBK is a very solid start to his career.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,484
    ddraver said:

    1 to go

    Bernal has to go from the bottom and pray, no?

    Edit - he doesn't tho...

    I thought his only chance was to hit the bottom of the climb hard and try to take them by surprise as I doubt either would have wanted to be first to react but I don't think he had that in him after working hard to close the gap to them. Very impressive ride though.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,918
    Aparently MvdP was on the Aeroad SL this week, which has a cheaper carbon lay up and isn't quite as stiff as the top spec version.
    Maybe cost him a few seconds on the final effort!
    Though at least the bars held firm.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,104
    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    Intermission Discussion

    What makes a Monument? I jest about @iainf72 and his chipper classification but Dani Rowe has now said 'It should be a monument" for the 5th time. Isnt this just something the fans decide?


    The whole concept of a 'monument' is fairly recent. 90s at the earliest (see also 'Grand Tour'). But I think the one defining feature is their age. They are all over 100 years old.

    It's like the Classics in Horse Racing. They all been around for over 200 years. The King George Vi at Ascot is probably a bigger race than most of them, but has only been around since the 1950s so it's not a classic.

    So in summary, barring a huge resurgence in Paris-Tours, there can't be another monument
    The concept of the monuments is not fairly recent. They've been described as such since the 1950s at least. Maybe the English speaking world was slow to adopt the terminology, but they've been called that on the continent for a long time. You just have to look at the list of winners to understand why, they are the five major one day races.

    Strade Bianche is a great race, but it has history and distance against it. It also probably needs a better slot on the calendar too, the first weekend in March doesn't do it any favours, even if it does tie together the Italian spring races nicely.

  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    ddraver said:

    RichN95. said:

    ddraver said:

    Ah...Tao didnt realise that wasnt such a good angle eh?



    (Edit - I had to learn HTML to make it smaller. Soz david)


    What the hell is that? It look like something out a David Cronenberg film
    The inside of a nose.

    Quite beautiful if you think about it...

    (be thankful I didn't choose the one I found with a tooth growing inside of it... 🥴 )
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,150
    andyp said:



    The concept of the monuments is not fairly recent. They've been described as such since the 1950s at least.

    [Source needed]

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,484
    Simmons looked good today too but suffered seriously bad luck. To chase back onto group 2 after that botch of a wheel change and then go to the front at the point it looked certain they were going to catch the leaders was excellent riding. That was also one of the quickest remounts I've ever seen by the Apecin rider that took him out. He'd barely stopped sliding before being back on his bike.

    Two things I noticed today. The first was just how hilly the races, I knew it was lumpy but possibly as I've never seen it from so far out before didn't realise quite how tough it was. The second, after musing on the affects of crashing downhill on that gravel particularly on bare hands, was that all the riders I looked at had their hands covered (someone will now post a photo of a group where at least half of the riders had bare hands.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,674
    Just watched on catch up. Wow. #race 👍

    I want to go ride my bike in Tuscany.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,388
    Gruber

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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,131
    david37 said:

    fantastic race and after the last hill acceleration that was odds on. He must have been super confident.

    what a contrast spinning bernal and MONSTER Power smash. This is a superb race.

    I think I like it more than Flanders and PR. possibly because its played out over a shorter period of time and things change quickly so I can fit it in a day and still do other stuff.

    Agree - it's the scenery, the mixed surface route, and the mix of riders who are competitive at the sharp end; TdF/GT winners, monuments winners, CX World Champions.....

    One useless fact; all 3 podium placed riders have medals at off road World Championships.

    And agree about the Matt/Tao instagram watchalong; have just finished watching it; excellent coverage & insight.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,608
    The main anchor for Flanders cycling is certainly a fan of Strade


  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,339
    ddraver said:

    MvdP looks human for a second...

    That certainly didn't last! 😂

    Great race. Solid build up with ever increasing tension. Phenomenal finale. I don't think I've ever seen anyone make other world beaters look that much like they are standing still. It's ludicrous how much of a gap MvdP got in such a short distance.

    This race hardly ever disappoints.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,608

    Amazing front selection as the race evolved . Really good race ... MvdP monster gears

    Is rather like Amstel Gold in terms of the riders it suits.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,804
    RichN95. said:

    andyp said:



    The concept of the monuments is not fairly recent. They've been described as such since the 1950s at least.

    [Source needed]

    monuments as a term was first heard by this poster late 90s. cant be 100% on that?
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 16,804

    Amazing front selection as the race evolved . Really good race ... MvdP monster gears

    Is rather like Amstel Gold in terms of the riders it suits.
    i suppose it is

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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,613
    Pross said:

    Simmons looked good today too but suffered seriously bad luck. To chase back onto group 2 after that botch of a wheel change and then go to the front at the point it looked certain they were going to catch the leaders was excellent riding. That was also one of the quickest remounts I've ever seen by the Apecin rider that took him out. He'd barely stopped sliding before being back on his bike.

    Two things I noticed today. The first was just how hilly the races, I knew it was lumpy but possibly as I've never seen it from so far out before didn't realise quite how tough it was. The second, after musing on the affects of crashing downhill on that gravel particularly on bare hands, was that all the riders I looked at had their hands covered (someone will now post a photo of a group where at least half of the riders had bare hands.

    Pidcock was definitely gloveless.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,613
    Not sure if this is a criticism or praise, but the finish of the course does seem to guarantee that the strongest rider wins without much doubt.

    A km or two of flat after the climb would bring in a lot more permutations.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Tom rode most of the cyclocross races bareback this winter.