Things that don't stand the test of time

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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited February 2021

    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    Why would you watch anything other than news and sport as it is being broadcast? If you don't, it doesn't matter how much bad stuff there is that you don't watch.
    It matters if there's a general coarsening of what is being churned out. It normalises bad behaviour, bad attitudes and bad language even if you or I choose to watch it or not. I mean whether it's people having sex on TOWIE or the human bear baiting on Big Brother or whatever, it isn't exactly upholding Reithian principles is it? It's cheap TV made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and it crowds out the good stuff.
  • shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    Why would you watch anything other than news and sport as it is being broadcast? If you don't, it doesn't matter how much bad stuff there is that you don't watch.
    It matters if there's a general coarsening of what is being churned out. It normalises bad behaviour, bad attitudes and bad language even if you or I choose to watch it or not. I mean whether it's people having sex on TOWIE or the human bear baiting on Big Brother or whatever, it isn't exactly upholding Reithian principles is it?
    Free speech innit.
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    Why would you watch anything other than news and sport as it is being broadcast? If you don't, it doesn't matter how much bad stuff there is that you don't watch.
    It matters if there's a general coarsening of what is being churned out. It normalises bad behaviour, bad attitudes and bad language even if you or I choose to watch it or not. I mean whether it's people having sex on TOWIE or the human bear baiting on Big Brother or whatever, it isn't exactly upholding Reithian principles is it?
    Free speech innit.
    Yup.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    lol big brother. 20 years old and stopped 3 years ago after being relegated to no hoper channels.
  • shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    Why would you watch anything other than news and sport as it is being broadcast? If you don't, it doesn't matter how much bad stuff there is that you don't watch.
    It matters if there's a general coarsening of what is being churned out. It normalises bad behaviour, bad attitudes and bad language even if you or I choose to watch it or not. I mean whether it's people having sex on TOWIE or the human bear baiting on Big Brother or whatever, it isn't exactly upholding Reithian principles is it? It's cheap TV made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and it crowds out the good stuff.
    a friend would like to know whether these people on TOWIE are the sorts of people he would like to see having sex and when and where is it on?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,599

    Bahaha. TV has never been better what are you on about?

    There's probably 40 times as much TV available, but no real increase in the amount of quality TV. Therefore the quality stuff is harder to find and is often swamped by the shite.
    Where things have massively improved is in the amount of sports coverage which certainly has never been better.
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    Sure there's still some great programming but it's increasingly drowned out by the likes of Big Brother, soaps, Love Island and Towie.

    Why would you watch anything other than news and sport as it is being broadcast? If you don't, it doesn't matter how much bad stuff there is that you don't watch.
    It matters if there's a general coarsening of what is being churned out. It normalises bad behaviour, bad attitudes and bad language even if you or I choose to watch it or not. I mean whether it's people having sex on TOWIE or the human bear baiting on Big Brother or whatever, it isn't exactly upholding Reithian principles is it? It's cheap TV made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and it crowds out the good stuff.
    a friend would like to know whether these people on TOWIE are the sorts of people he would like to see having sex and when and where is it on?
    😀
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited February 2021
    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Bahaha. TV has never been better what are you on about?

    There's probably 40 times as much TV available, but no real increase in the amount of quality TV. Therefore the quality stuff is harder to find and is often swamped by the shite.
    Where things have massively improved is in the amount of sports coverage which certainly has never been better.
    Absolute tonne of high quality high budget dramas, for a start.

    TV used to be film’s inbred cousin but it is easily is as good as films - you can see this as the better film stars now appear in said TV programmes.

    You’re not looking in the right places if you think TV has got worse.

    Or you’re just old and things were always better in them days...
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

    Always puzzled me why scenes of consensual sex are banned but scenes of murder and violence are acceptable. Bizarre that illegal acts can be shown but legal ones not.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

    Always puzzled me why scenes of consensual sex are banned but scenes of murder and violence are acceptable. Bizarre that illegal acts can be shown but legal ones not.
    They’re not banned. You’re just not watching programmes where they show it.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,827

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

    Always puzzled me why scenes of consensual sex are banned but scenes of murder and violence are acceptable. Bizarre that illegal acts can be shown but legal ones not.
    They’re not banned. You’re just not watching programmes where they show it.
    Any recommendations?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited February 2021
    mrb123 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

    Always puzzled me why scenes of consensual sex are banned but scenes of murder and violence are acceptable. Bizarre that illegal acts can be shown but legal ones not.
    They’re not banned. You’re just not watching programmes where they show it.
    Any recommendations?
    If you have Netflix sex education is fantastic, best thing I’ve watched in ages.

    If you want wall-to-wall sex then sit through chick-flick Bridgeton. One episode is basically just a montage of a couple having sex all over a stately home.

    It’s a Sin on 4 is TV of the highest quality, better than anything Hollywood has produced and you get plenty of lad on lad action if that’s your thing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,534
    mrb123 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    shortfall said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Mary Whitehouse.

    She’d sh1te a brick, if she saw modern media.

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nah she was a fuck1ng prude and pain in the ar$e, mate. Watch what you want, but don't tolerate someone moaning about it and trying to change everything, thinking everyone's on side.
    Sure she was a prude. But presumably you would draw a line somewhere yourself about what's acceptable to be broadcast on mainstream television?
    I honestly wouldn’t. Put things out with age recommendations and at appropriate times etc, but don’t censor.

    Always puzzled me why scenes of consensual sex are banned but scenes of murder and violence are acceptable. Bizarre that illegal acts can be shown but legal ones not.
    They’re not banned. You’re just not watching programmes where they show it.
    Any recommendations?
    Seems to be anything targeted at women. Pretty all the programmes my wife watches appear to be seni-pornographic then any blood and gore type thing like GoT or Vikings.

    I remember teenage days of having to look for something with a red triangle for any chance of brief nudity.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,608
    Re Barbara Whitehouse, this is quite funny.

    https://youtu.be/ejU6NockGAc
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    My filling it would seem. Ugh
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,608

    My filling it would seem. Ugh


    Ditto, a few days ago. It's always muesli that does it for me. TBF, the molar rebuilding job he did with the amalgam did seem rather optimistic at the time, so I wasn't entirely surprised when my muesli felt rather scrunchier than it should have.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    edited February 2021
    GCN
    Was fairly happy until today. "tech issues" (=no feed) all afternoon, then loaded last 25km only, then the iPad app crashing every 5 Min and rest of race loading after I had watched 25-20km section. No lost the whole fkg lot and I'm 2 bottles of Lidl's finest Belgian beer down and no race.
    Was Es any better?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,534
    ES was fine for me although I was about 1km behind at the end (luckily didn't see the spoilers until after my version finished).
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    3D tvs.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,534
    shortfall said:

    3D tvs.

    Yep, 3D cinema never really did it either. Having very unbalanced eyesight (perfect vision in my left eye and very poor in my right) they were always a bit blurred and made me feel sick. It never seemed to add to the experience either.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,708
    Has anyone been to a '4D' cinema yet? I'm so out of touch with cinema I didn't even know they were a thing until a few weeks ago...
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  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,710
    Pross said:

    shortfall said:

    3D tvs.

    Yep, 3D cinema never really did it either. Having very unbalanced eyesight (perfect vision in my left eye and very poor in my right) they were always a bit blurred and made me feel sick. It never seemed to add to the experience either.
    See also: IMAX theatres

    I watched a really interesting film in one many years ago about the effort to extinguish the oil-well fires in Kuwait after the Gulf War, but the visual effect of the 3D footage on that scale made me quite ill.
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    shortfall said:

    I think that was her whole point. You might disagree with her but the quality of TV we have now (or lack of) is precisely because people like her have been sidelined in the name of "progress". Overall I think she had a point.

    Nonsense. She was an out of date prude-troll when she was alive, banging on about things no-one cared about. She didn't care about quality, all she cared about was that every show should mention the sky-fairy and not have any willies or t1ts in it.


    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    Pross said:

    shortfall said:

    3D tvs.

    Yep, 3D cinema never really did it either. Having very unbalanced eyesight (perfect vision in my left eye and very poor in my right) they were always a bit blurred and made me feel sick. It never seemed to add to the experience either.
    Least I wasnt the only one, being a speccy four eyes doesnt help, nor does having bad astigmatism in one eye and generally poor depth perception as a result.

    Another cinema related thing, those 4D seats, tried it once, ended up turning all the options off as they really distract from the actual film, last few times I went no one used the seats I'd imagine for similar reasons.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    edited March 2021
    Wait. The fourth dimension is time.

    What happens at these 4D cinemas? Do you end up in 1970s Alsager?
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,200
    edited March 2021
    Ben6899 said:

    Wait. The fourth dimension is time.

    What happens at these 4D cinemas? Do you end up in 1970s Alsager?

    If it's just like the ones at Thorpe Park, it's 3D plus the seat shakes, occasionally you get splashed with water or blown with air or (I think) the feeling of something running around by your legs. It's a modern version of that guy who rigged seats up with electric shocks in the 50s for showings of The Tingler. So yes, back in time to the 50s.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,534
    Yep, only ever come across it at theme parks where it is fine. I couldn't be arsed watching a proper film with all that though. It's just gimmicks, a good film doesn't need anything over the visuals and sound.