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Serious case of inconsistency from the ref. Why a yellow there when Wales gave away 3 penalties in a row on their line without one?2
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Wales get a warning after 4 or 5 penalty offences on their own line.
Fiji give away one penalty and it's a yellow.....
Game over now.
Wales have really stepped up tonight and defended very strongly.
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They showed a replay of that on TV and I think the contact was just about shoulder to shoulder. He should still be getting a serious bollocking from the coaches for constantly tackling in such an upright position and inviting a red.Dorset_Boy said:Looks like Biggar should be off:
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Fiji scrum going forward with penalty advantage and Carley blows up?
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Not sure I’d put George on the blindside. Surely better at 8 in a defensive scrum?0
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Time wasting, cynical, unsporting should be penalised.0
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And again at the lineout.
Not a good look Wales.0 -
Considering I thought Wales would lose, I am happy about the extremely unexpected bonus point."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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And another penalty deep inside their 22.0
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Sorry but on field decision being a try in that situation is just a guess.1
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Think he forgot to card Liam Williams in all the excitement.1
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Don't worry, Carley is on your side!Pross said:Sorry but on field decision being a try in that situation is just a guess.
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Sorry, yet another warning? After 4 penalties.
You warned them before the last yellow,
No second warnings.0 -
Fiji blow it at the end. Through the hands and they score.
Miracle pass and it is dropped.
Wales played very well, but can give Carley a massive thank you to keep as many men on the field and get a couple of key decisions.
By far the best game of the tournament.0 -
Shocker at the end although I doubt they’d have kicked the conversion. Ref was as bad as I’ve seen, poor both ways but Fiji can feel particularly hard one by.
Yet again the Welsh bench didn’t look up to scratch other than maybe Reffell. Wales played some nice attacking stuff, far better than in the 6N and in the middle third of the match seemed to have sorted out their defence but Fiji definitely had the edge off the bench.0 -
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.0 -
That really annoyed me. They weren’t getting an advantage as the ref had stopped the clock but still carried on risking a card. Just really stupid play. It’s also a really negative bit of body language, far better to look positive ‘OK we just conceded but we’re coming straight back at you.Dorset_Boy said:Time wasting, cynical, unsporting should be penalised.
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Skin of the teeth job then.
This time around, there is not one group of death, but two. The third group could contain both finalists."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
The on field try decision was poor to start with though, it was impossible for him to see so he guessed and then when it wasn’t clear he bottled it.Dorset_Boy said:
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.0 -
The gulf in class between refs is still a major issue. Barnes, O'Keefe, Pearce seem to be a level or 2 above the rest.
I thought Reynal was decidedly dodgy last night (actually favouring England mostly) and don't get me started on Jaco Peyper!0 -
One of those moments on twitter where Englishman & Irishmen are in total agreement as well as Kiwis and South Africans...
Not seen that since...well since Owen Farrell TBF...but a long time before thatWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Thought Jaco did well in the opening game.MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:The gulf in class between refs is still a major issue. Barnes, O'Keefe, Pearce seem to be a level or 2 above the rest.
I thought Reynal was decidedly dodgy last night (actually favouring England mostly) and don't get me started on Jaco Peyper!1 -
LOL.ddraver said:One of those moments on twitter where Englishman & Irishmen are in total agreement as well as Kiwis and South Africans...
Not seen that since...well since Owen Farrell TBF...but a long time before that
The Kiwis complaining about a team getting favourable refereeing.
The match report on the BBC site has a HYS. Two and a half thousand comments, which is a lot by rugby standards. A few of them are from Welsh posters and one or two of them are even about the match!
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I thought that was fine - it was a bit odd that the TMO didn't see the second movement, but the ref seeing it on the screen is OK.Pross said:
The on field try decision was poor to start with though, it was impossible for him to see so he guessed and then when it wasn’t clear he bottled it.Dorset_Boy said:
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.
The difference in what the teams had to do to get carded was a bit mind boggling though. It's not like Wales' continued infringement didn't prevent a probable try. Biggar should have been sent to the bin for at least the third penalty, but they didn't even get a warning until after another one.
Felt sorry for the guy who dropped the pass, but the kicker would almost certainly have missed the conversion.
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The ref was abysmal, he made bad decisions both ways but Wales were definitely the overall benificiary. Just heard Biggar got man of the match, I thought he was one of the worst players in the starting 15 and was certainly lucky to stay on the pitch (and not get decked by his own teammates).kingstongraham said:
I thought that was fine - it was a bit odd that the TMO didn't see the second movement, but the ref seeing it on the screen is OK.Pross said:
The on field try decision was poor to start with though, it was impossible for him to see so he guessed and then when it wasn’t clear he bottled it.Dorset_Boy said:
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.
The difference in what the teams had to do to get carded was a bit mind boggling though. It's not like Wales' continued infringement didn't prevent a probable try. Biggar should have been sent to the bin for at least the third penalty, but they didn't even get a warning until after another one.
Felt sorry for the guy who dropped the pass, but the kicker would almost certainly have missed the conversion.
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Really?Pross said:
The ref was abysmal, he made bad decisions both ways but Wales were definitely the overall benificiary. Just heard Biggar got man of the match, I thought he was one of the worst players in the starting 15 and was certainly lucky to stay on the pitch (and not get decked by his own teammates).kingstongraham said:
I thought that was fine - it was a bit odd that the TMO didn't see the second movement, but the ref seeing it on the screen is OK.Pross said:
The on field try decision was poor to start with though, it was impossible for him to see so he guessed and then when it wasn’t clear he bottled it.Dorset_Boy said:
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.
The difference in what the teams had to do to get carded was a bit mind boggling though. It's not like Wales' continued infringement didn't prevent a probable try. Biggar should have been sent to the bin for at least the third penalty, but they didn't even get a warning until after another one.
Felt sorry for the guy who dropped the pass, but the kicker would almost certainly have missed the conversion.
(and I live in a pro-Wales home.)
I thought he was below his par in both defence and goal kicking.
Tomkins did all the creative midfield work.
Plus he was lucky not to get carded.
I also agree with him being decked by his own teammates and assume you refer to one particular rant over a penalty.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.1 -
That was what I heard on the radio news unless they were giving it unofficial 'man of match performance' as they had a bit of a post-match interview with him. Agree that Tomkins was the driving force in attack. The centre partnership looked the best I can remember for a few years.blazing_saddles said:
Really?Pross said:
The ref was abysmal, he made bad decisions both ways but Wales were definitely the overall benificiary. Just heard Biggar got man of the match, I thought he was one of the worst players in the starting 15 and was certainly lucky to stay on the pitch (and not get decked by his own teammates).kingstongraham said:
I thought that was fine - it was a bit odd that the TMO didn't see the second movement, but the ref seeing it on the screen is OK.Pross said:
The on field try decision was poor to start with though, it was impossible for him to see so he guessed and then when it wasn’t clear he bottled it.Dorset_Boy said:
Absolutely. No way Wales should have finished with on the one yellow card.ddraver said:Well that will have done nothing for the Tier 1/ Tier 2 controversy...
Wales insanely lucky.
No clear evidence for over turning the on field try decision, but the over turned it.
Far from Carley's finest hour.
The difference in what the teams had to do to get carded was a bit mind boggling though. It's not like Wales' continued infringement didn't prevent a probable try. Biggar should have been sent to the bin for at least the third penalty, but they didn't even get a warning until after another one.
Felt sorry for the guy who dropped the pass, but the kicker would almost certainly have missed the conversion.
(and I live in a pro-Wales home.)
I thought he was below his par in both defence and goal kicking.
Tomkins did all the creative midfield work.
Plus he was lucky not to get carded.
I also agree with him being decked by his own teammates and assume you refer to one particular rant over a penalty.
It was when he was in the faces of all his team mates and ranting as they went off for half time I was thinking of. Sure, it was a bad call to try to run out of defence at that point in the game but as I said at the time he was the main culprit in missing a tackle that led to the first try and also missed some kickable penalties. Him (and Liam Williams) look like walking red / yellow cards at times.0
