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  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    I was surprised by the number of rugby journos and pundits picking NZ to win ahead of the WC. France, SA and Ireland are all better teams at present.

    I would still like Ireland to win but the French will take some stopping. Seemed like they didn't even have to play in 5th gear tonight.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,283
    How can a pass be "flat out of the hands" when the player isn't going forwards and still land in front of where it started?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,283
    Good match, that.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,283
    It was impressive for ITV to finish the match with the wrong score on screen though :D
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    One of the boys I used to coach has been training with the Englad squad in France this week!

    Ireland about 7 classes above the Romanians
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    I will slate Farrell and his tackling all day long, but Curry's red looked mightily harsh to me. Yellow yes for the head but no malice and it was a real attempt to tackle. He had no time to adjust IMO.

    Surely the Argentine 10 has to go as well then?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Curry red and probably rightly so.
    England have no discipline whatsoever.

    Guess well now be treated to an evening of kick tennis from England, to see if they can beat 50 kicks.....
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    JP Doyle seemed to favour the initial yellow.
    Sometimes I think we expect too much of player’s reactions
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    It was borderline and I will readily accept the decision, but if there was no mitigation with Curry (and I'd argue there was), he needs to explain what the mitigation was with the Argentine yellow.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    edited September 2023
    The Argentinian had started his jump before Ford kicked it. Can't change your trajectory in the air.
    Problem is, England consistently failed to bend at the waist and hit low. They seem utterly unable to learn the lesson,
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    edited September 2023
    Dear me, this is the polar opposite of last nights match.
    Argentina are equally clueless in attack.

    Not sure I will last the 80 minutes
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    George Ford! 2 superb DGs!
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Dumb from May.
    And perfect example of how to butcher an overlap - miss the extra man out!
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    Fair point regarding Curry. I do think the fact that the Argentinian had already jumped should be overuled by the complete recklessness and lack of any attempt to change course when he easily could have. Just my two cents though.

    Ford is definitely stepping up so far though and Argentina really look shaken up. Perhaps they thought they only had to show up seeing how terrible we habe been lately.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678
    Hat trick. Does he keep the match ball?
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    Most importantly, taking points at every opportunity. Clinical is not something England have been for some time.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:

    Most importantly, taking points at every opportunity. Clinical is not something England have been for some time.

    Reminds me of 2001-2003 as they built to make fortress TW1
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,167
    Reminds me of 2001-2003 as they built to make fortress TW1


    Yes, good call. Smart also from Ford. It is the only way they are going to win games. They can't play teams off the park so squeeze them and keep the scoreboard ticking over is the best option.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Who would have thought? Drop goals suddenly back in fashion.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Assuming the plan is that the opposition spend so much effort trying to block them that it opens space on the wings...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678
    England playing well but Argentina look clueless
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    England are doing what they are doing well, but haven't threatened ball in hand at all, and never looked like scoring other than through Ford's boot, but Argentina have been terrible.

    It's papering over a few of the gaping England cracks.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Is...is this....hope..?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    ddraver said:

    Is...is this....hope..?

    No, they will be taken apart by Ireland, France & SA
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Given that 2 hours ago I was worried they'd be taken apart by Chilie, I'm taking that...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rakkor
    rakkor Posts: 53
    Dorset_Boy said:

    ddraver said:

    Is...is this....hope..?

    No, they will be taken apart by Ireland, France & SA
    At least we won't be meeting any of them them until the semi-finals
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Dorset_Boy said:

    ddraver said:

    Is...is this....hope..?

    No, they will be taken apart by Ireland, France & SA
    Yup.
    It’s a match won, but you don’t win tournaments by kicking the ball between the sticks alone.

    I am surprised by how poor Argentina were, but they have been up and down throughout the recent S hemisphere comp.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Jannie de Beer spraakt Hi...

    (I've no idea if that's the Afrikaans for "says hi"..)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,582
    rakkor said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    ddraver said:

    Is...is this....hope..?

    No, they will be taken apart by Ireland, France & SA
    At least we won't be meeting any of them them until the semi-finals
    Obviously.
    As I said earlier, we couldn't have hand picked an easier group.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    edited September 2023
    3 mins in and the officials miss a clear head on head by the Saffas.
    Clear red.
    If Ben Whitehouse, TMO, missed it, he should be heading home this evening.

    Also failed to look at deAllende's elbow to the face when he was tackled into touch.

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