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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Had a feeling about this one, so gave it a miss.
    Seems like I made the correct call.

    So, finally Farrell gets a red after all those yellows.... B)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,683
    Ficking piss poor from Wales
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    The whole "most open world cup" ever thing isn't ageing well is it...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    France vs Scotland was a very good game
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Ntamack and van Portfleit both out of the world cup following their injuries this weekend.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,287
    What's the longest suspension Farrell could get? And is there any real reason he shouldn't get it?
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    kingstongraham said:

    What's the longest suspension Farrell could get? And is there any real reason he shouldn't get it?

    6 weeks I believe.
    Having had a red card for a similar offence earlier in the season, he wn't get too much mitigation. I suspect it will end up 3 or 4 weeks, but really should be 6.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Shall we just have the all blacks and springboks play a final and call it a day...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,590
    ddraver said:

    Shall we just have the all blacks and springboks play a final and call it a day...

    Maybe . . . although I wouldn't be writing France out of it
    Wilier Izoard XP
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    ddraver said:

    Shall we just have the all blacks and springboks play a final and call it a day...

    Don't think the Irish or French would be happy.

  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Ntamack and van Portfleit both out of the world cup following their injuries this weekend.

    You could tell from Ntamack’s sideline expression that he suspected as much.

    Farrell will get 4 weeks imo.
    In reality, given the number of times that he’s been in trouble for the exact same offence, the 6 weeks max is too light.
    Should be 12.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    I don't recall the whole tournament in 2003 but what were our chances then? I seem to recall we played quite scrappily to start with but pulled it together for the knockout stages.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,287
    shirley_basso said:

    I don't recall the whole tournament in 2003 but what were our chances then? I seem to recall we played quite scrappily to start with but pulled it together for the knockout stages.

    Six Nations grand slam winners and pre tournament one of the top three in the betting.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,680
    Dorset_Boy said:

    kingstongraham said:

    What's the longest suspension Farrell could get? And is there any real reason he shouldn't get it?

    6 weeks I believe.
    Having had a red card for a similar offence earlier in the season, he wn't get too much mitigation. I suspect it will end up 3 or 4 weeks, but really should be 6.
    One of my annoyances with rugby is band given in weeks rather than games. If you time it right you can hardly miss a match.
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,590
    shirley_basso said:

    I don't recall the whole tournament in 2003 but what were our chances then? I seem to recall we played quite scrappily to start with but pulled it together for the knockout stages.

    England were ranked number one in the world and tournament favourites
    Wilier Izoard XP
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,590
    edited August 2023
    shirley_basso said:

    I don't recall the whole tournament in 2003 but what were our chances then? I seem to recall we played quite scrappily to start with but pulled it together for the knockout stages.

    They have a 3 game warm up in the group stage this time. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    shirley_basso said:

    I don't recall the whole tournament in 2003 but what were our chances then? I seem to recall we played quite scrappily to start with but pulled it together for the knockout stages.

    England went into 2003 as hot favourites.
    The current England team are ranked about 8 in the world, and rightly so.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Dorset_Boy said:

    ddraver said:

    Shall we just have the all blacks and springboks play a final and call it a day...

    Don't think the Irish or French would be happy.

    Ireland is fair. My bad...

    Ntamack is a huge blow for France though...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Fair play to world rugby for straight up trolling the Welsh....



    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,680
    The amount of times he's got away with it on the field and when he finally gets the red he deserves (which even the mosr ardent English supporters seem to fee was the case) he gets cleared. He must have vast stores of kompromat on World Rugby and as well as the English selection panel.
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,168
    Very odd, the panel argument seems to be that the Jamie George intervention caused a change in line of the Welsh player which meant Farrell could not adjust in time. Farrell was already lined up to tackle with (yet again) his right arm straight down and in no position to wrap or tackle correctly which suggests (yet again) that he had no intention of a proper tackle.

    Wasn't the panel made of of ex-pro's? I don't think for a minute think it is a stitch up but I think it is an issue of ex players in an old boys network making decisions where they are likely to judge in favour of a big name player and show leniency.

    Either way, as an Englishmen, I have to admit Farrell has got away with it, and also that we stand absolutely no chance of winning the WC.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,152
    ddraver said:

    Fair play to world rugby for straight up trolling the Welsh....

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    I don’t feel trolled. The guy is a liability, England is welcome to him in the WC.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Farcical Farrell.
    No much point in having yellow cards reviewed and upgraded to red if a panel are then going to downgrade it back to yellow.
    Intent trumps any change in dynamic argument.
    Everyone agreed it was ban worthy, yet he gets out of gaol once again.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,287
    Must have been planning to use his arms if Jamie George hadn't interfered.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,680
    edited August 2023
    Maybe the interference involved George pinning Farrell's arms to his side.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Google Owen Farrell elbow and it returns results for 2021, 2022 and 2023 - twice.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,287
    edited August 2023
    I can't see a way that Farrell wasn't going to hit Basham in the head or neck at the angle he was going, no matter how vertical he was.

    And it was always going to be a shoulder charge.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    It's baffling but the rugby twitter reaction is rather hilarious...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    An unbelievable decision. As clear a red as you will see for that offence.
    No dip from Farrell, arm tucked in, leading with the shoulder, no attempt to wrap.
    With his previous it should have been 4 weeks minimum, and had the many previous dangerous hits he has done been properly punished previously, then 6-8 weeks.

    Absolutely no one saw this decision coming.

    Farcial.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    edited August 2023
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv-afFTtJkp/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    Will Greenwood’s take.
    I don’t think we’ve heard the last of this decision - not be a long chalk.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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