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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669

    Pross said:

    Eddie Butler is getting on my nerves tonight (I usually tolerate him as member of the great Pontypool team).

    By far and away the weakest member of that team. He was as poor a player as he is a commentator.

    Second half didn't improve at all, just a couple of moments of quality. The rest was really dire.
    Worsley wasn't much better to be honest. It was like listening to David Millar with his droning delivery and 'predicting' tactics after they've happened.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669

    Pross said:

    Eddie Butler is getting on my nerves tonight (I usually tolerate him as member of the great Pontypool team).

    TBF there’s nothing more annoying then Jonathan Davies commentating on a Wales game. Absolutely no objectivity.
    Dunno, he was critical of the amount of advantage Wales were allowed on that one penalty.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498

    I would make every one of the Welsh/neutral idiots who can throw away 3 figures to watch that dross, donate £50 to Ukraine, to get out of the stadium.

    Although close, it was sh111te. Dreadful spectacle.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Pross said:

    Pross said:

    Eddie Butler is getting on my nerves tonight (I usually tolerate him as member of the great Pontypool team).

    TBF there’s nothing more annoying then Jonathan Davies commentating on a Wales game. Absolutely no objectivity.
    Dunno, he was critical of the amount of advantage Wales were allowed on that one penalty.
    Fair. First time ever though. Any other 50/50 and it’s a yellow or red card for the opposition.

    I don’t have any real dog in the fight but always find him a lot more biased then the others. Annoys me.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669
    Wales have been poor at the breakdown, especially when they go in with the ball, in every match so far. Good to see them doing well at the lineout and they dominated the kicking game but without sorting out that breakdown and finding a cutting edge they aren't going to win against good teams.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669
    I'm not overly confident that Wales will beat Italy watching this, they've looked decent at times but just make crucial mistakes.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Poor refereeing by Luke Price for Hogg’s try.
    Clearly a forward pass, question asked by the Italians, but he didn’t even bother to check.
    I sometimes feel the Italians get the poo end of the stick with refs because they are always the underdog.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    edited March 2022
    England about to go down to 14 men for the whole match?

    Edit: yup

    Very clumsy and caused a nasty injury
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  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508

    England about to go down to 14 men for the whole match?

    Edit: yup

    No other decision was possible there
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    These head on heads shouldn't be red when everything else about the tackle is 100% legal.
    And when Ireland's other second row wasn't even cited for his far, far worse hit in the Italian game is a joke.
    Game over. If Ireland don't win by 25 points now.......
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Lawrence Dellaglio currently out biasing both Butler and Jonathan Davies. Whining about the card and the game being over.

    Fact is that Ireland have lost a key player as result and he will likely be out for several weeks.
    It was definitely a red and it’s unfortunate but irrelevant that the game suffers from inconsistency.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Under the laws / current interpretation is is certainly a red. I don't disagree.
    I do think the interpreation isn't right though, and I 100% get the safety concerns.
    I think yellow would be the right sanction.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Curry injured and Dombrandt now on.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    As is often the case, going down to 14 has ignited England, who are playing with passion and guts.
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  • diplodicus
    diplodicus Posts: 723
    England going well in the set pieces
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669
    More importantly Pontypool came back from being 12-14 down at half time to win 45-14. Normal service is resumed in real rugby.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    An observation on Ireland: they seem to be playing far closer to the breakdown and seem quite reluctant to send the ball wide, as they have in other matches.
    Even odder given they have an extra man.

    Flattered by that fortuitous try.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Utterly cynical by Henderson at the end there. His 3rd penalty, and he certainly knew what he was doing.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669

    Utterly cynical by Henderson at the end there. His 3rd penalty, and he certainly knew what he was doing.

    Hardly a surprise, it's Ireland's standard operating procedure to kill ball and they seem to get away with it far too much. It's the reason I dislike them as a team.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669
    Ireland's scrum is absolutely shit.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Pross said:

    Ireland's scrum is absolutely censored .

    Have to give credit to England for making Ireland look like censored.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669

    Pross said:

    Ireland's scrum is absolutely censored .

    Have to give credit to England for making Ireland look like censored.
    England have been superb but Ireland are certainly helping them. Lucky not to give away the interception try there too.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734

    Utterly cynical by Henderson at the end there. His 3rd penalty, and he certainly knew what he was doing.

    Luckily Itoje never does anything that is utterly cynical. :D
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Nasty charge into the ruck from 30m by Ireland as they then score.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Get in Ireland
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Mot looked at, and that's the match.
    Valiant by England.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,669
    Fatigue eventually caught up with them in the last 10 minutes.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,623
    Yes. Ireland weren't 17 points better, and could have had 2 yellows in the game on another day.
    Had Maro not played the 9's hand, and Steward gone the length who knows what would have happened. That said, to only tire in the last 5 minutes was a good effort.
    Ireland have been against 14 for most of their last 2 games and looked far from impressive.
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498

    Yes. Ireland weren't 17 points better, and could have had 2 yellows in the game on another day.
    Had Maro not played the 9's hand, and Steward gone the length who knows what would have happened. That said, to only tire in the last 5 minutes was a good effort.
    Ireland have been against 14 for most of their last 2 games and looked far from impressive.

    Done what’s necessary
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,734
    Final score flatters Ireland, but as Pross and Matt Dawson observed at the time, (just before Ireland scored try number 3) England were sucking on fumes towards the end.
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