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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    RichN95. said:

    DeadCalm said:



    You got 40/1 on Roglic?

    That's for the Green jersey
    Ah, okay. Still a decent shout.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,327
    DeadCalm said:

    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.

    We'll always have yellow leading out rainbow on the Champs Elysee...

    DK will have rainbow in the break being chased by the Dannebrog of Asgreen :)
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    Apparently UAE have now confirmed their line up.

    ARU Fabio Italy
    DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David Spain
    FORMOLO Davide Italy
    KRISTOFF Alexander Norway
    LAENGEN Vegard Stake Norway
    MARCATO Marco Italy
    POGACAR Tadej Slovenia
    POLANC Jan Slovenia
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,157
    DeadCalm said:

    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.


    Yates, Swift, Rowe. Who's the fourth?
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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,435
    blazing_saddles said:

    Apparently UAE have now confirmed their line up.

    ARU Fabio Italy
    DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David Spain
    FORMOLO Davide Italy
    KRISTOFF Alexander Norway
    LAENGEN Vegard Stake Norway
    MARCATO Marco Italy
    POGACAR Tadej Slovenia
    POLANC Jan Slovenia

    Some good climbers in there...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,327
    RichN95. said:

    DeadCalm said:

    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.


    Yates, Swift, Rowe. Who's the fourth?
    Dan Martin?

    *legs it away*
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    RichN95. said:

    DeadCalm said:

    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.


    Yates, Swift, Rowe. Who's the fourth?
    Dan Martin?

    *legs it away*
    Could be worse.
    Only a matter of time before y'all claim Dunbar
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    Has quickstep confirmed a team?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    RichN95. said:

    DeadCalm said:

    Connor swift appears to have made the Arkéa Samsic team meaning 4 British riders in the Tour. It's not the riches of some recent years but a big improvement on when I first started following cycling in the 80s.


    Yates, Swift, Rowe. Who's the fourth?
    Carthy.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,646
    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Alaphillipe, Sam Bennett, Morkov, Asgreen, Tim De Clerq, Devenyns, Jungels, Stybar
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    takethehighroad said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Alaphillipe, Sam Bennett, Morkov, Asgreen, Tim De Clerq, Devenyns, Jungels, Stybar
    If anyone can face watching.....

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,141
    edited August 2020

    nickice: The classics seem like they'll be more manageable.

    Nah you haven't thought that through I mean how can hauling 22 teams around a whole country for three weeks be more manageable than some one day cross country traipse along roads only beloved by farmers

    'Do not compare your bike to others, for always there will be greater and lesser bikes'
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,141
    edited August 2020
    ...
    'Do not compare your bike to others, for always there will be greater and lesser bikes'
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Yes.
    Alaphilippe
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,091
    edited August 2020
    I don't know, Trek-Segafredo - who could that masked man in the rainbow bands possibly be? #LeastConvincingDisguiseSinceSuperman

    Twitter: @canocola @thedreadships
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    Hugo Houle was false positive for Covid as well, and is now back on the Tour team for Astana.

    If it's only getting 50% right, does the test pass?
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    blazing_saddles said:

    Hugo Houle was false positive for Covid as well, and is now back on the Tour team for Astana.

    If it's only getting 50% right, does the test pass?

    In fairness, no. But what are they going to do? Is this not a classic 'rock and a hard place' scenario for the organisers?
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,812
    Now confirmed.
    AG2R LA MONDIALE

    BARDET Romain France
    CHEREL Mickaël France
    COSNEFROY Benoit France
    LATOUR Pierre France
    NAESEN Oliver Belgium
    PETERS Nans France
    VENTURINI Clément France
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis France

    ASTANA PRO TEAM

    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar Basque Country
    HOULE Hugo Canada
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka Basque Country
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion Basque Country
    LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel Colombia
    LUTSENKO Alexey Kazahkstan
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon Spain
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Colombia

    COFIDIS

    CONSONNI Simone Italy
    EDET Nicolas France
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesús Spain
    LAPORTE Christophe France
    MARTIN Guillaume France
    PEREZ Anthony France
    PERICHON Pierre-Luc France
    VIVIANI Elia Italy

    DECEUNINCK - QUICK-STEP

    ALAPHILIPPE Julian France
    ASGREEN Kasper Denmark
    BENNETT Sam Ireland
    DECLERCQ Tim Belgium
    DEVENYNS Dries Belgium
    JUNGELS Bob Luxembourg
    MORKOV Michael Denmark
    STYBAR Zdenek Czech Republic

    TOTAL DIRECT ENERGIE

    BONIFAZIO Niccolo Italy
    BURGAUDEAU Mathieu France
    CALMEJANE Lilian France
    COUSIN Jerome France
    GRELLIER Fabien France
    SICARD Romain Basque Country
    SOUPE Geoffrey France
    TURGIS Anthony France

    TREK - SEGAFREDO

    EG Niklas Denmark
    ELISSONDE Kenny France
    MOLLEMA Bauke Netherlands
    PEDERSEN Mads Denmark
    PORTE Richie Australia
    SKUJINS Toms Latvia
    STUYVEN Jasper Belgium
    THEUNS Edward Belgium
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,091
    blazing_saddles said:

    Hugo Houle was false positive for Covid as well, and is now back on the Tour team for Astana.

    If it's only getting 50% right, does the test pass?

    A false positive rate of 1% is still likely to pick up at least a couple of riders even if they only get tested once, and presumably they're already being tested semi-regularly?

    Might well be possible that teams are more likely to be knocked out of the tour by two false positives than by two people actually contracting Covid19 though - I've always found probability quite hard so I'll let somebody else play with the possible numbers. At the least you'd hope the protocols for testing (and confirming them) are as tight as they can be.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    DeadCalm said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Yes.
    Alaphilippe
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    This wasn't particularly droll when I posted it but, for some reason, it needed to be approved by a moderator and took several hours to appear, so is even less amusing. Doh!
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,560
    blazing_saddles said:


    ASTANA PRO TEAM

    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar Basque Country
    HOULE Hugo Canada
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka Basque Country
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion Basque Country
    LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel Colombia
    LUTSENKO Alexey Kazahkstan
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon Spain
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Colombia

    I'm assuming that this was a cut and paste job from somewhere, but since when was Basque Country separate from Spain...
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,553
    dish_dash said:

    blazing_saddles said:


    ASTANA PRO TEAM

    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar Basque Country
    HOULE Hugo Canada
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka Basque Country
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion Basque Country
    LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel Colombia
    LUTSENKO Alexey Kazahkstan
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon Spain
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Colombia

    I'm assuming that this was a cut and paste job from somewhere, but since when was Basque Country separate from Spain...
    Don't they also have Basque flags rather than Spanish? I guess the team announce based on what the rider wants but doubt it will show that way in any official results.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,906
    dish_dash said:

    blazing_saddles said:


    ASTANA PRO TEAM

    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar Basque Country
    HOULE Hugo Canada
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka Basque Country
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion Basque Country
    LÓPEZ MORENO Miguel Ángel Colombia
    LUTSENKO Alexey Kazahkstan
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon Spain
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Colombia

    I'm assuming that this was a cut and paste job from somewhere, but since when was Basque Country separate from Spain...
    A surprising number of tub thumpers get wound up by Thomas having a Welsh flag next to his name.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    DeadCalm said:

    DeadCalm said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Yes.
    Alaphilippe
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    This wasn't particularly droll when I posted it but, for some reason, it needed to be approved by a moderator and took several hours to appear, so is even less amusing. Doh!
    TBH I only asked about quickstep's team as, 'Is Sam Bennett' riding seemed a bit parochial

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Hugo Houle was false positive for Covid as well, and is now back on the Tour team for Astana.

    If it's only getting 50% right, does the test pass?

    A false positive rate of 1% is still likely to pick up at least a couple of riders even if they only get tested once, and presumably they're already being tested semi-regularly?

    Might well be possible that teams are more likely to be knocked out of the tour by two false positives than by two people actually contracting Covid19 though - I've always found probability quite hard so I'll let somebody else play with the possible numbers. At the least you'd hope the protocols for testing (and confirming them) are as tight as they can be.
    False negatives are much more likely with the current PCR swab test - I was told 25-30% by my GP (who won't let me in for a blood test even though I have a negative swab test).

    As I understand it's due to how the test is taken (it's fairly unpleasant and a lot of people get it wrong) and if you take it too late or too early in the illness for it to be detected.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,100
    tailwindhome said:

    DeadCalm said:

    DeadCalm said:

    tailwindhome said:

    Has quickstep confirmed a team?

    Yes.
    Alaphilippe
    Sam Bennett
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    A. N. Other
    This wasn't particularly droll when I posted it but, for some reason, it needed to be approved by a moderator and took several hours to appear, so is even less amusing. Doh!
    TBH I only asked about quickstep's team as, 'Is Sam Bennett' riding seemed a bit parochial

    Not only is your man riding, he's been given equal status to Alaphilippe by DQS.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,702
    The main question to me anyawy is how badly beaten up Roglic was in the crash.
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    rick_chasey said:

    The main question to me anyawy is how badly beaten up Roglic was in the crash.

    Yes, it looked pretty painful.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391


    ????

    (wouldn't be unlike Equipe to over-egg that pudding though...)
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