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Gravel rocks"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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🤣🤣🤣mididoctors said:Gravel rocks
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I don't mind gravel or cobbles just not too much and not every year. I thought the grave in yesterday's stage was fine. The only person negatively affected was Richie and he was due bad luck at some point anyway
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The yellow bikes of Tour winners/leaders are incredibly underwhelming.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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We will never really how good he would have been without being on the needle.RichN95. said:Pogacar is a phenomenon at 21. So was Armstrong. He genuinely may have been the talent of his generation.
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Currently watching the documentaries on iPlayer. He admits to drug cheating in his first year as a professional. He was 21.FreddieVonRost said:
We will never really how good he would have been without being on the needle.RichN95. said:Pogacar is a phenomenon at 21. So was Armstrong. He genuinely may have been the talent of his generation.
1. LA never competed as a clean professional cyclist.
2. Neither did the vast majority of his competition.
3. He was the best of the cheating generation*.
Apples and oranges. We hope. 🤞🤞🤞
*I preferred Pantani but LA's results speak for themselves.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Well you could add metallic or crystalline flake into the paint, or a yellow fade to a team color etc. etc.
The lack of creativity is exactly what I'm criticizing.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
For Pogacar they had 18 hours to knock a yellow one up in the factory, get it transported to the stage start and build the bike. They may not have had much wiggle room to mix a new paint or do anything fancy.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.1
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Well if you are contending GC, your factory could prepare in advance. Doubt that costs that much extra money.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Pogacar wasn't their No.1 rider though.m.r.m. said:Well if you are contending GC, your factory could prepare in advance. Doubt that costs that much extra money.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I guarantee that frame was pre-prepared just in case.salsiccia1 said:For Pogacar they had 18 hours to knock a yellow one up in the factory, get it transported to the stage start and build the bike. They may not have had much wiggle room to mix a new paint or do anything fancy.
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andyp said:
I guarantee that frame was pre-prepared just in case.salsiccia1 said:For Pogacar they had 18 hours to knock a yellow one up in the factory, get it transported to the stage start and build the bike. They may not have had much wiggle room to mix a new paint or do anything fancy.
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Going by historical stories, all that is required is a paint job and ship.andyp said:
I guarantee that frame was pre-prepared just in case.salsiccia1 said:For Pogacar they had 18 hours to knock a yellow one up in the factory, get it transported to the stage start and build the bike. They may not have had much wiggle room to mix a new paint or do anything fancy.
No need to build a new frame as they are all stock moulds these days, aren't they?*
*Exception to prove the rule - Cannondale once said that Sagan's requirements were most definitely not standard (short head tube, long top tube) so special moulds would be required. The paint job would be pretty much guaranteed at the time. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.0
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Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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I'm not sure Amstel good and the tour of Britain rank as exceptional.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
Yet the man who stopped him winning the world cyclocross championship up to last season, is drug cheat because he has been ripping the legs of everybody.0
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Can't disagree but he did say his road palmares which probably wouldn't count as exceptional right now - not on a world level.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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Who do you count as having an exceptional palmares?DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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This comment makes zero sense. Winning at cross then going over HC mountains in the front group, then winning a bunch sprint, then top 5 TT with a mountain in it are all the same thing.webboo said:Yet the man who stopped him winning the world cyclocross championship up to last season, is drug cheat because he has been ripping the legs of everybody.
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He's been little more than average so far this season.DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
Just a win on the flat in Tirreno and the Dutch champs.
Van Aert has been in a different league on the road.
He hasn't been the same rider since his legs fell off in Harrogate.
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Last year prior to his crash in the Tour, he was doing very impressive rides both in the classics, the Dauphiné and then the Tour. This year post accident he has gradually built up from a 4th place in cross worlds, followed by shut down to hit the ground running. If anyone knows how to hit peak form without racing it must be WvA as done it early in the year. Also if you have ever watched cross and watched WvA , MVP or even Tom Pidcock hit the afterburners in cross race. They make the rest of the Elite class look ordinary.50x11 said:
This comment makes zero sense. Winning at cross then going over HC mountains in the front group, then winning a bunch sprint, then top 5 TT with a mountain in it are all the same thing.webboo said:Yet the man who stopped him winning the world cyclocross championship up to last season, is drug cheat because he has been ripping the legs of everybody.
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Not that.50x11 said:
Who do you count as having an exceptional palmares?DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
There is still plenty of time for him though. He'll have to pick races WvA isn't riding though 0 -
50x11 said:
Who do you count as having an exceptional palmares?DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.
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Of current riders, Gilbert.50x11 said:
Who do you count as having an exceptional palmares?DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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Valverde? Sagan? Froome? Nibali? Kwia hasn't done too badly either.DeadCalm said:
Of current riders, Gilbert.50x11 said:
Who do you count as having an exceptional palmares?DeadCalm said:
Read my post again. I'm talking only about the road. To be considered exceptional on the road he needs to do way better than Amstel Gold and Dwars door Vlaanderen plus a bunch of chippers.50x11 said:
Haha, if he retired tomorrow it'd be exceptional. Multiple WT wins, one day wins, multiple National champs wins on top of his cross and MTB make it exceptional. He was one win away from being European champion in XC, MTB and road. This isn't unpopular, it's just nonsense.DeadCalm said:Mathieu van der Poel is a flat track bully on the road and his road palmares when he retires will be nothing exceptional.
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