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  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 899

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,837

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
    Cricket's on...
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,983
    Pinot's tears abandoning TdF last year aren't a heart-rending manifestation of his humanity, they're the evidence of a fragile, cosseted ego, a little boy who has never grown up.

    Am I doing this right?
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 20,374
    If AtC and RR were still active on here I'd fear for your life...so yes!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 15,297
    Paris-Roubaix is better than Flanders.
    Believe that a farther shore
    Is reachable from here.
    Believe in miracles
    And cures and healing wells
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,474
    P-R type cobbles have no place in the Tour
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,474
    RichN95. said:

    The idea of a 'Patron' (like Hinault especially) is just toxic masculinity and bullying

    All the antipathy against Froome since 2012 is just a surrogate for Armstrong


    An opinion that may not be unpopular - The way the French view cycling and the way England see football is very similar and have the same failings and solutions

    I don't see any of them as controversial
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,983
    ddraver said:

    If AtC and RR were still active on here I'd fear for your life...so yes!

    Snitches get stitches.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 11,373

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's normally a great hour of racing.
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 899

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
    Cricket's on...
    Ha I just posted in other thread about MSR surely being better than watching cricket. (As a proud scot it's in my DNA to not be interested in cricket.)
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,089
    Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,983
    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

    @DrHeadgear

    The Vikings are coming!
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,897

    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.

    Profiles should be shown at natural scale so we realise the terrain isn't all that tough after all.
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,897

    Paris-Roubaix is better than Flanders.

    That's fact so not really unpopular.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 8,837

    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.

    This isn't controversial!
  • Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance

    Bold statement, ugo. Based on?
    Not a Giro Hero!
  • 50x1150x11 Posts: 272
    edited 8 August
    Wrong thread
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 3,662
    Mercx was the previous Evenepoel.
  • DeadCalm said:

    Mercx was the previous Evenepoel.

    Controversial, l like it!
    Not a Giro Hero!
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,089

    Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance

    Bold statement, ugo. Based on?
    Well, Engers was the first to go under 50 minutes on a 25... that was on a road bike with no aerodynamics and on a non perfectly flat course... so that's nearly 49 km/h... I think on the boards he could have gone faster and beat Merckx' time.

    Merckx could have beaten his own time, but that's a different story
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,897
    I know the kit is different but if you take Dowsett's 25 mile PB and hour record it doesn't back your case that you ride faster on the track than in a TT.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,948
    Does the hour record have to be done on a single gear bike?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,086 Lives Here
    RichN95. said:

    Does the hour record have to be done on a single gear bike?

    Yeah. Trackie rulez.
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,280
    There was nothing stopping Alf Engers from attempting the hour record. He wouldn't have beaten Merckx.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 10,698

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,086 Lives Here

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,086 Lives Here
    3 genuine leaders is the most effective way to win a race if you can manage the team properly and ride to the tactical strength you have.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 10,698

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,086 Lives Here

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
    Watch that Alp stage again - takes up the chase far too late as he has no teammates and is playing silly buggers with the (faster than Sastre) Schlecks.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 10,698

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
    Watch that Alp stage again - takes up the chase far too late as he has no teammates and is playing silly buggers with the (faster than Sastre) Schlecks.
    He either misjudged it or didn't have the legs, but if he did have the legs, there was nothing anyone could have done about it.
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