Big Trouble with not so Little China..🇭🇰💛 / 🇨🇳😡

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Decent sofas in fairness. Not cheap.
    _
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    rick_chasey said:

    Decent sofas in fairness. Not cheap.

    Meh, they would be half the price if they were made in China, bygones.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Decent sofas in fairness. Not cheap.

    Meh, they would be half the price if they were made in China, bygones.
    Mmm not so sure about that.
    _
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Decent sofas in fairness. Not cheap.

    Meh, they would be half the price if they were made in China, bygones.
    Mmm not so sure about that.
    Yeah, even with shipping and tax and it would smell of fish n chips.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    I've got a china tea set made in Czechoslovakia!
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    mr_goo said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    I've got a china tea set made in Czechoslovakia!
    That's just fooked up. I'm drinking water made in the UK now, it's crazy I tell thee!
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Where else are you gonna buy your rugs from? Unless you want some cheap sh1t for the cat to lounge on.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 2020
    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Chill about Turkey then? Mate, come on.

    I don't think the persian rug market is really funding terrorism.
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TBH I really like the rugs so it was just a bit of a flex.
    _
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Is it a magic rug?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,482
    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    The UK supports terrorism if you follow the weapon source.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,268
    Given the recent bad boys have been Sunni and Iran is Shia, isn't Iran on the same side as some definition of 'us'. My enemy's enemy is what?
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Ben6899 said:

    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Where else are you gonna buy your rugs from? Unless you want some cheap censored for the cat to lounge on.
    China make some very nice rugs.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    rick_chasey said:

    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Chill about Turkey then? Mate, come on.

    I don't think the persian rug market is really funding terrorism.
    Only have turkey at Christmas.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    mr_goo said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Where else are you gonna buy your rugs from? Unless you want some cheap censored for the cat to lounge on.
    China make some very nice rugs.
    I told him that, he could have saved wodge of cash! When I was sick on mine it washed up a treat.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,490
    focuszing723 said:

    Is it a magic rug?

    How about I buy you one and you can f*ck off on it?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    focuszing723 said:

    mr_goo said:

    Ben6899 said:

    mr_goo said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    focuszing723 said:

    I think the more salient point is how do you project authority on a Country with the second largest economy and military budget, one which produces the products we all rely on and are using right now?

    This will change, quite rapidly, especially after corona.

    The world was heading in this direction anyway, but a focus on resilience will be a priority.

    You say it as if you know it will happen, where is your evidence to support this theory? What counts is what turns up on container-ships and planes, that's the fact of the situation.
    It's literally what all leaders are talking about.
    Again, lets see that happen when global companies are chasing the bottom line.
    Given that any western company, when it's too big or inconvenient for China get chased out, it is not likely that Western companies, apart from maybe a handful of luxury firms, will see China as a serious opportunity like they did 10 years ago.

    That ship has sailed with Xi's reforms. We're in a different place now where China is, essentially, the new Evil Empire, with the US & Europe ripping themselves apart with the centrifugal forces of serious economic stagnation/depression in a democracy.

    That all sound swell, but lets see where your next fridge,TV...is made. Keep tapping away on your Chinese made Iphone.
    Mine was assembled in Czechoslovakia, but whatever.
    I'm pretty sure if we did an itinerary on your house...I won't ram it home again.
    So my samsung telly was assembled in SK. My xbox was assembled by the same company that assembled my iphone and that one was done in SK too. My frige was assembled in Turkey. My portable bose speaker was manufactured in mexico, my VW car was assembled in Brazil, my oven was assembled in Turkey, and my dishwasher was assembled in North Carolina, no less.

    My work phone was assembled in SK. My laptop in in the US. My daughter's toys were all made in Europe. My sofas were made in the UK, my rugs in Iran, dining table & chairs in Germany, lightbulbs in Poland.

    It goes on.

    The main thing I get a lot from china is garlic and ginger.
    You were doing so well until you listed your rugs being made in Iran.
    I don't like you anymore for supporting a country that supports terrorism. Take them to the community tip immediately.
    Where else are you gonna buy your rugs from? Unless you want some cheap censored for the cat to lounge on.
    China make some very nice rugs.
    I told him that, he could have saved wodge of cash! When I was sick on mine it washed up a treat.
    You were sick on your wig? That must've been a cracking might out.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,799

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    pinno said:

    focuszing723 said:

    Is it a magic rug?

    How about I buy you one and you can f*ck off on it?
    Lol, gawd.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Hoping maybe @focuszing723 has forgotten about this thread now.

    This is somewhat difficult to get your head round. A list of countries writing an official letter to the UN praising China for locking up Uighurs. Have a look who is on the list.

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,024
    rjsterry said:

    Hoping maybe @focuszing723 has forgotten about this thread now.

    This is somewhat difficult to get your head round. A list of countries writing an official letter to the UN praising China for locking up Uighurs. Have a look who is on the list.

    I'm sure tagging him in a post will help with that.

    The US has a list of countries that always vote with them at the UN e.g. Palau - population 20,000, but its citizens have the right to live and work in the US, and the US Navy gets to use its waters.

    I imagine China has a similar set up. Although, seeing Palestine voting for detention without trial of muslims is harder to understand.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    I get that China buys a lot of influence, but still, seeing Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia lining up to not just not mention the suppression of the Uighurs, but actually praise it for doing so...
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Isn't it just a letter praising authoritarianism though? Which makes more sense given the states listed.
    It is similar (but opposite) to the defence of free speech by democracies. We allow views we find abhorent to be expressed because we enshrine free speech.
    This is enshrining authoritarianism which likewise has consequences of some outcomes you may not like. I guess you could praise their consistency in defending authoritarianism over a minority group despite that minority group sharing your religion.
    It's a strange world.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    morstar said:

    Isn't it just a letter praising authoritarianism though? Which makes more sense given the states listed.
    It is similar (but opposite) to the defence of free speech by democracies. We allow views we find abhorent to be expressed because we enshrine free speech.
    This is enshrining authoritarianism which likewise has consequences of some outcomes you may not like. I guess you could praise their consistency in defending authoritarianism over a minority group despite that minority group sharing your religion.
    It's a strange world.

    I guess it is more important to their own legitimacy of rule to defend authoritarianism. Defending the minority group would be hypocrisy.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    I assume you read this testerday

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/04/why-do-muslim-states-stay-silent-over-chinas-uighur-brutality
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,024
    rjsterry said:

    I get that China buys a lot of influence, but still, seeing Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia lining up to not just not mention the suppression of the Uighurs, but actually praise it for doing so...

    How do you feel about HSBC? Different subject, but same sort of thing.

  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    ballysmate said:

    I assume you read this testerday

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/04/why-do-muslim-states-stay-silent-over-chinas-uighur-brutality

    I didn't no, but it is the same point I've just made with more substance.

    I just read the letter at face value.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,490
    Shock news: Bally reads loony left propaganda!
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,490
    "Iran, Egypt, Syria and dozens of other countries that could not tolerate a magical realist novel can live with the mass sterilisation of Muslim women. They will give concentration camps a conniving wink of approval, but draw the line at cartoons in a Danish newspaper."

    All about the money innit.
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