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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,313
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  • Tomkennett427
    Tomkennett427 Posts: 1
    When applying to get on to the nationals, is much attention paid to coming, say, 20th out of a decent field of 100, or 10th out of 15 people? I'm presuming not given the forms just seem to ask for finishing position?

    Bit demoralised as trained really hard over lockdown and lost a load of weight, am getting times that would have gotten me in top 5/10s of the same events I rode last year, but am basically getting the same positions (c. 15th) this year just due to the strength and sizes of the field!

    I grew up about 2 miles from the nationals course this year and as such have really taken it as being a lovely opportunity (even without spectators) which I'd probably only get once in my lifetime to do. But starting to lose any faith that I'd even have a hope of getting in, and biscuits are starting to gain their allure again!!
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  • maryka
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    It's really a dark art compared to other TTs where it's purely on time over a specified distance and you need to race "fast courses" to get a fast time.

    I think entering a high profile event and coming further down the results table with high-quality winners is probably better than doing well at some event where no top tier riders raced.

    I think there may be space in the entry form to write some comments so I would put in info about times vs top level riders in recent races (i.e., "within 10% of winner's time in 3 races finishing 5th, 15th and 18th" or whatever). But one thing I would say is ALWAYS tick the reserve box especially if you live close by, that will increase your chances of getting a ride as usually all reserves in a HC will get in.
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
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    Best of luck ugo. Hope your rides are gathering lots of kudos ;)
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  • maryka
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    I was chatting to someone today who thinks there may be holders at the start for the National? Kitted out in visor, mask, and gloves...
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  • webboo
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    maryka said:

    I was chatting to someone today who thinks there may be holders at the start for the National? Kitted out in visor, mask, and gloves...

    That would be nice... on short climbs you can really lose a lot in the clip-in lottery. I wonder how hard it would be to have some sort of contraption to hold on to before the start
    Zimmer frame maybe.
  • daniel_b
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    maryka said:

    I was chatting to someone today who thinks there may be holders at the start for the National? Kitted out in visor, mask, and gloves...

    That would be nice... on short climbs you can really lose a lot in the clip-in lottery. I wonder how hard it would be to have some sort of contraption to hold on to before the start
    Pretty sure Reading CC had a piece of wooden framework, with a handle you could hang onto before the off - it must have been cleaned inbetween each rider departing.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,313
    Good to know, since they organise the National :)
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  • simon_e
    simon_e Posts: 1,707
    ugo.santalucia said:

    Just received confirmation I am going to have a ride at the National Championship on the 25th... :)

    Start Sheets are up on CTT (Men, Women). You are rider no. 148. Good luck.
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  • Jack_Luke
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    maryka said:

    I was chatting to someone today who thinks there may be holders at the start for the National? Kitted out in visor, mask, and gloves...

    That would be nice... on short climbs you can really lose a lot in the clip-in lottery. I wonder how hard it would be to have some sort of contraption to hold on to before the start
    One of my more memorable hill climbs (for the wrong reasons) was caused by a start marshall who was clearly a bit... distracted. I really thought I was going to go over sideways at the start. You can see the near-disaster at the 08:38-ish mark: https://youtu.be/ZKGIW3CPIIE?t=514
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  • ugo.santalucia
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  • joe2019
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    Can't see the video...

    http://youtu.be/ZKGIW3CPIIE?t=514

    There you go...
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
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    ugo.santalucia said:

    Can't see the video...

    Yes, logistically a bit more complicated than planned... there is quite a way between the car park and the start and then a 4 km loop to go back to HQ... so it's the perennial question: should I carry a spare tube and a minipump or should I chance it? These race tyres puncture easily and it would be heartbreaking to puncture on the way to the start... At the end of the day a couple of hundred grams on my back are not going to make any significant difference, are they? In normal times you would then dump the stuff at the start, but now with Covid you can't even do that...



    However, you're using 'race tyres', presumably, to save couple of hundred grams of weight.
  • maryka
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    You can't leave anything at/near the start, not even a jacket?
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Just take a tube and levers. Chances are someone else will have a pump.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    ugo.santalucia said:

    joe2019 said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    Can't see the video...

    Yes, logistically a bit more complicated than planned... there is quite a way between the car park and the start and then a 4 km loop to go back to HQ... so it's the perennial question: should I carry a spare tube and a minipump or should I chance it? These race tyres puncture easily and it would be heartbreaking to puncture on the way to the start... At the end of the day a couple of hundred grams on my back are not going to make any significant difference, are they? In normal times you would then dump the stuff at the start, but now with Covid you can't even do that...



    However, you're using 'race tyres', presumably, to save couple of hundred grams of weight.
    Yes, but also because they are inherently faster tyres... you're always going to be faster with TT tyres and a pump in your rear pocket than with non TT tyres and without a pump in your rear pocket... it's a no brainer, really... if you have light, fast tyres you have to use them at the National, otherwise why buying them?

    Using tubulars is also a 'no brainer' for a hill climb :)
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  • ugo.santalucia
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    Jack_Luke said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    maryka said:

    I was chatting to someone today who thinks there may be holders at the start for the National? Kitted out in visor, mask, and gloves...

    That would be nice... on short climbs you can really lose a lot in the clip-in lottery. I wonder how hard it would be to have some sort of contraption to hold on to before the start
    One of my more memorable hill climbs (for the wrong reasons) was caused by a start marshall who was clearly a bit... distracted. I really thought I was going to go over sideways at the start. You can see the near-disaster at the 08:38-ish mark: https://youtu.be/ZKGIW3CPIIE?t=514
    In the end you hardly lost any time... you saved it quite well... :smile:
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  • shirley_basso
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    When are you taking the hacksaw to them?
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    edited October 2020
    Shouldn’t need that left shifter either
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