Edward Colston/Trans rights/Stamp collecting
Comments
-
Start. Middle. End.DeVlaeminck said:I never take any notice of these award ceremonies - it just seems an odd thing a group of people deciding what the best album or who the best artist is. Unless you are deaf and can't actually hear the music yourself why would you need someone else to tell you what is good ?
Ok I get it's an industry thing and it helps drive sales - I just don't get why people outside the industry care - if indeed they do.
Only reason they exist.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Here's the logical conclusion from the voice of reason
0 -
I know you are making fun of him. He appears to be arguing that minorities should never be overrepresented.kingstongraham said:Here's the logical conclusion from the voice of reason
0 -
I don't think 9 female nominees out of 20 since they made the two awards non gender specific is too bad.0
-
Owen hasn't lost his touchkingstongraham said:Here's the logical conclusion from the voice of reason
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/31/ex-tory-mp-threatens-sue-cambridge-university-slavery-research-antoinette-sandbachThe former Tory MP Antoinette Sandbach has threatened the University of Cambridge with legal action after a historian named her as a descendant of merchants who enslaved his ancestors.
Malik Al Nasir, a third-year PhD history student at St Catharine’s College, has spent the past 20 years exploring his family’s history of slavery and the wealth that was built from those who enslaved them.
Suing him because he found out a fact and made it public?
Do you have a right to privacy about your ancestor being part of the slave trade?0 -
I would rate her chances as non-existent unless there is something else like hassling them about it.0
-
Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
-
-
People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
For a time she ran the family farming business which is still based on the same Wales estate that her great great great grandfather bought with the proceeds from his sugar plantation. It's one of the more direct links. Goodness knows why she's threatening to sue - as you say, you can't choose your ancestors, nor can you edit out the ones you'd rather forget. and I think very few can claim no link to that part of our past whatsoever.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.0 -
I don't think it needed a PhD thesis to find this connection. As I say, unlikely anyone can claim to have no connection whatsoever to the mainstay of the British economy during that period.Pross said:
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Does that make Sandbach services on the M6 a no go area for us woke antifa BLM lefties? 🤔0
-
Reasonably safe if your ancestors were serfs.rjsterry said:
I don't think it needed a PhD thesis to find this connection. As I say, unlikely anyone can claim to have no connection whatsoever to the mainstay of the British economy during that period.Pross said:
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.
But then employment... 🤔The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Pross said:
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.
Well done to her for confirming the Streisand effect.0 -
True, I'm looking at it from my point of view. If somebody announced that I was descended from someone who did nasty things a couple of hundred years ago, my reaction would 'Yep - sfw?'Pross said:
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Just a question of how far back you go. Our most recent common ancestor was only about 600 years ago, early 15th century.pblakeney said:
Reasonably safe if your ancestors were serfs.rjsterry said:
I don't think it needed a PhD thesis to find this connection. As I say, unlikely anyone can claim to have no connection whatsoever to the mainstay of the British economy during that period.Pross said:
It has just come up from research the PhD student did on their family and the ex-MP has made it an issue by threatening to sue over something that is a matter of historical record so you'd have to ask her I suppose.Stevo_666 said:
S**t happens. Don't see why its relevant though.rjsterry said:People often proudly note their famous ancestors for a bit of extra kudos. Seems only reasonable to also acknowledge that those ancestors are not just one dimensional 'good chaps'.
It's a matter of record that the Sandbach family made their money in West Indies sugar plantations. That lead to being mayor of Liverpool. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/8083
You can't choose your parents but equally they do have an influence on where you end up in life.
But then employment... 🤔1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
-
Wait till you hear how the UK Head of State is chosenStevo_666 said:Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
How is that relevant here?tailwindhome said:
Wait till you hear how the UK Head of State is chosenStevo_666 said:Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Giving a s**t who someone's parents were, in a long ancestral line, is the basis for the selection of the UK head of state.Stevo_666 said:
How is that relevant here?tailwindhome said:
Wait till you hear how the UK Head of State is chosenStevo_666 said:Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
No sh1t Sherlock. Pretty clear we're talking about people in general and not the very obvious exception.tailwindhome said:
Giving a s**t who someone's parents were, in a long ancestral line, is the basis for the selection of the UK head of state.Stevo_666 said:
How is that relevant here?tailwindhome said:
Wait till you hear how the UK Head of State is chosenStevo_666 said:Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Point is they aren't an exception; just a more public example.Stevo_666 said:
No censored Sherlock. Pretty clear we're talking about people in general and not the very obvious exception.tailwindhome said:
Giving a s**t who someone's parents were, in a long ancestral line, is the basis for the selection of the UK head of state.Stevo_666 said:
How is that relevant here?tailwindhome said:
Wait till you hear how the UK Head of State is chosenStevo_666 said:Why would anyone give a s**t? You can't help who your parents are.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Can we just blame the whatever that created the big bang?
Ummm...and the thing that created the thing that created the big bang.
Ummm...0 -
https://www.ft.com/content/f8b902b9-ca9a-42db-a3cd-97fe2cc13863Companies with more gender-balanced workforces outperformed their least-balanced peers by as much as 2 percentage points annually between 2013 and 2022, a BlackRock study of the MSCI World index has found.
The higher return on assets held true within countries and within sectors, and was especially marked for companies where gender parity was greatest in revenue producing, engineering and top-paying jobs, researchers at the $9.1tn money manager said in a report released on Thursday.0
https://youtu.be/wWhtcU4-xAM
