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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    Nascar might look roughneck but like all motorsport it is money that makes it go round. Protecting their brand scores higher than protecting the minority flagrant racists. They need more fans than a Trump convention so they have to appeal to a wider base. Sports are often the first to bow to public pressure as the have the flame of publicity and looking bad can be terminal.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    Oopsie!
    "The noose found in Nascar driver Bubba Wallace's garage on Sunday was actually a handle on a garage door and had been there since last year, an FBI investigation concluded."
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/53159686
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Lol
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    pblakeney said:

    Oopsie!
    "The noose found in Nascar driver Bubba Wallace's garage on Sunday was actually a handle on a garage door and had been there since last year, an FBI investigation concluded."
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/53159686

    Can't believe that the most rudimentary investigation would not have discovered this, but then again, it would have quashed the story and publicity wouldn't it?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    What? Another made up BLM story from the BBC?
    Their propaganda department need to step it up.......

    ...........and that didn't take long.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53156103

    Yeah, Wales is absolutely rolling in top jobs, especially in the Welsh Valleys.
    Why not try there?


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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    That'll by why no-one grassed the culprit up then..!
    _
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    Spell out what your problem with virtue signalling is.

    I thought I got to the heart of it, but you didn't really respond to me, so I never found out if I did or not.
    _
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    I'm surprised BLM have not tried to explain 'white privilege' to the working class of Burnley. Should be an interesting conversation...
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    edited June 2020
    rick_chasey said:

    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    Spell out what your problem with virtue signalling is.

    I thought I got to the heart of it, but you didn't really respond to me, so I never found out if I did or not.
    Ironically, whinging about virtue signalling seems to be the fashionable way to show what a hard core reactionary you are, and get some likes from your fellow reactionaries.
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  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    :smiley::smiley::smiley:

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited June 2020
    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    I'm surprised BLM have not tried to explain 'white privilege' to the working class of Burnley. Should be an interesting conversation...

    I'd have thought that should be a fairly straightforward conversation.

    White working class people in Burnley face the same challenges in life as BAME working class people in Burnley, but not the additional challenges of racism due to the colour of their skin.

    Unless you exclude BAME people from your definition 'working class of Burnley'

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    tailwindhome said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    I'm surprised BLM have not tried to explain 'white privilege' to the working class of Burnley. Should be an interesting conversation...

    I'd have thought that should be a fairly straightforward conversation.

    White working class people in Burnley face the same challenges in life as BAME working class people in Burnley, but not the additional challenges of racism due to the colour of the their skin.

    Unless you exclude BAME people from your definition 'working class of Burnley'

    I would exclude the few BAME people around here from being working class.
    They are either white or pale blue collar workers. (hope the term white is ok in this context.)
    Large swaths of the white community here form the "out of working" class.

    I appreciate that this area might well be untypical, but I can understand why it would be hard for folks scraping a living not to feel left out and forgotten at this time.
    Without wanting to spill over too far into politics, that's also pretty much the how Tories view areas that aren't winnable.

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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    Spell out what your problem with virtue signalling is.

    I thought I got to the heart of it, but you didn't really respond to me, so I never found out if I did or not.
    Ironically, whinging about virtue signalling seems to be the fashionable way to show what a hard core reactionary you are, and get some likes from your fellow reactionaries.
    Nothing 'hard core' about me, reactionary or otherwise.

    In the display of solidarity following the noose non incident, what was achieved apart from ramping up tensions further unnecessarily and more importantly, giving a bunch of white men the chance to feel better about themselves.

    I also used the term to refer to Pelosi who got her soundbite tick in the box about a few statues in the Capitol, which it appears she has no control over, as they are supplied by each state. All this whilst ignoring the elephant in the room, well in S. Dakota anyway.

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.






  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    edited June 2020
    ballysmate said:

    rjsterry said:

    rick_chasey said:

    ballysmate said:

    But a glorious opportunity for virtue signalling.
    Too good to miss.

    Spell out what your problem with virtue signalling is.

    I thought I got to the heart of it, but you didn't really respond to me, so I never found out if I did or not.
    Ironically, whinging about virtue signalling seems to be the fashionable way to show what a hard core reactionary you are, and get some likes from your fellow reactionaries.
    Nothing 'hard core' about me, reactionary or otherwise.

    In the display of solidarity following the noose non incident, what was achieved apart from ramping up tensions further unnecessarily and more importantly, giving a bunch of white men the chance to feel better about themselves.

    I also used the term to refer to Pelosi who got her soundbite tick in the box about a few statues in the Capitol, which it appears she has no control over, as they are supplied by each state. All this whilst ignoring the elephant in the room, well in S. Dakota anyway.

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.






    Absolutely. Complain about the inconsistency. Point out the hypocrisy. But most importantly, make sure everyone sees you doing it by using a catchy on-trend word. 😉
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ballysmate said:



    In the display of solidarity following the noose non incident, what was achieved apart from ramping up tensions further unnecessarily and more importantly, giving a bunch of white men the chance to feel better about themselves.

    Tensions between who, precisely?

    _
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    😂
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's achievable for a Democrat to win a majority in a nationwide poll in the USA.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Shouldn't that post be preceded by: "There now follows a Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party..."
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  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    kingstongraham said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's achievable for a Democrat to win a majority in a nationwide poll in the USA.
    With Biden?

    A man who right now is older than Trump will be at the end of his second term. The Dems seem to be doing everything to get Trump elected for a second term.

    I wonder if the lefties around the world will accept that democratic result come November?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

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  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    kingstongraham said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's achievable for a Democrat to win a majority in a nationwide poll in the USA.
    Did you see the video of the protestors, who are aligned to the Dems, cheering at burning the American flag yesterday?

    Those sort of actions will push middle America right into the arms of Trump
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    coopster_the_1st said:

    kingstongraham said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's achievable for a Democrat to win a majority in a nationwide poll in the USA.
    With Biden?

    A man who right now is older than Trump will be at the end of his second term. The Dems seem to be doing everything to get Trump elected for a second term.

    I wonder if the lefties around the world will accept that democratic result come November?
    The won a majority of the vote in seven out of the last eight, why not the next one too?
  • Jeremy.89
    Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    coopster_the_1st said:

    kingstongraham said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    ballysmate said:

    I have also used it on other threads to describe people who went to protest Trump's election, in the streets of London. Trump is all people feared he would be, but what did the outraged placard wavers expect to achieve apart from getting their tick in the box? Funny how there are rarely protests about some of the world's despots upon whom HMG may bring pressure to bear. But there would be no kudos in that would there.

    I have called this movement out as a leftie political one from the start and it is proving to be exactly that.

    The left, because of their policies cannot win via the ballot box so we get the losers massing on the streets instead, usually the more wacky elements. The middle ground then see them for what they are and thus vote for those on the right again, rinse and repeat.

    Until the left accept their democratic defeat via the ballot box, the right will continue to get voted in. This has happened in the UK with the EU referendum and is happening in America right now.

    Call me crazy, but I think it's achievable for a Democrat to win a majority in a nationwide poll in the USA.
    With Biden?

    A man who right now is older than Trump will be at the end of his second term. The Dems seem to be doing everything to get Trump elected for a second term.

    I wonder if the lefties around the world will accept that democratic result come November?
    Given how judgemental you have been about fatties in the coronavirus thread, I would think you'd be more damning of Don's diet and general physical health. That may have aged him beyond his years.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,398
    coopster_the_1st said:

    :smiley::smiley::smiley:

    She probably should have thought that one through first :D
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,550
    As garage door pulls go, that is quite noose-y.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,325
    edited June 2020
    It is also looking pretty fresh for one that's been hanging around getting used for over a year. Fresher than the fish in Grimsby.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    kingstongraham said:


    Perhaps they could release the video evidence of it being there last October, eight months before the garage being allocated?

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