The big Coronavirus thread
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Mrs Slog has just read somewhere about NHS staff coming out of work this morning to find their bikes had been stolen. They'd cycled to work to avoid public transport and now are struggling to get home..
There are always lowlives out there of course, but I think they will be getting desperate soon. They are going to find it difficult to break into houses when everyone is at home, unfortunately, they'll be picking the usual easy targets such as the old and vulnerable. What they do manage to steal (other than cash), they are going to find hard to trade.
The older I get, the better I was.0 -
The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....0 -
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My car now serviced and MOT'd, but garage now saying they're shutting from tomorrow, as the manager doesn't think it's fair his workforce to stay open.
Dartmoor now advising that it is 'closed' for visitors, to discourage people from taking the mickey and driving there for their daily exercise. Obviously they can't close the roads, as such, but they are right to be discouraging all but essential traffic.0 -
@Pross sorry to hear of your family's loss.
It's the reality of the situation. Dr Bomp is working in the the geriatric "dirty" ward, which means what you think it does.
The patients (6 by the end of yesterday) are the ones who are infected and need to be in hospital. But who have been excluded from ICU by triage. If you don't know what that means, and what the consequences are, you can probably guess. As of yesterday they were all still alive but by the time I hear her story from today ....0 -
My colleague had his house burgled last night while they were all home. They broke in, stole car keys and took his car along with his wife's work laptop and phone. The really scary thing is that they moved his wife's (older) car first to get to his. With there being so few people on the streets it appears they're more brazen than ever. I saw a video earlier in the week of a burglar breaking into a local social club - it must have taken him over 5 minutes to get through the security gate that may have put him off normally. Also, they'll be aware that there's likely to be more valuable work kit on the premises.capt_slog said:Mrs Slog has just read somewhere about NHS staff coming out of work this morning to find their bikes had been stolen. They'd cycled to work to avoid public transport and now are struggling to get home..
There are always lowlives out there of course, but I think they will be getting desperate soon. They are going to find it difficult to break into houses when everyone is at home, unfortunately, they'll be picking the usual easy targets such as the old and vulnerable. What they do manage to steal (other than cash), they are going to find hard to trade.0 -
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Pretty catastrophic - but why were the US numbers so low before? The absolute numbers of unemployed in the US before this crisis were lower than the UK but its population is 5-6x the size of ours. And it's not as if we had a major unemployment issue.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000....."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I would love to know how they compile these stats as 2-300,000 is impossible to achieve. I wonder what they are measuring.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....0 -
Cheers Bomp, sounds very much like the same situation. We had to wait 48 hours for the test result so at first she was in A&E but they then assumed the worst and moved her to a private room on the isolation ward but finally put her in the ward once the test results came back so at least there were others around at the end. She had a DNR on file so wasn't moved to ICU at all. The local hospital is by far the worst affected in Wales but to be fair to them they did their best to keep us up to date although it was all very chaotic in the first 24 hours.bompington said:@Pross sorry to hear of your family's loss.
It's the reality of the situation. Dr Bomp is working in the the geriatric "dirty" ward, which means what you think it does.
The patients (6 by the end of yesterday) are the ones who are infected and need to be in hospital. But who have been excluded from ICU by triage. If you don't know what that means, and what the consequences are, you can probably guess. As of yesterday they were all still alive but by the time I hear her story from today ....0 -
In other 'news' I heard just now from the boss that Japan was allegedly fiddling its COVID infection and death stats - apparently in an attempt to stop the Olympics being cancelled. not yet fact checked this but if there is a big jump in the Japanese numbers soon we will know why.
Some of our Japanese colleagues are apparently less than chuffed as they had been recalled to the office after a few weeks of WFH and now need to WFH again - after putting themselves at risk on public transport and in offices etc - Tokyo probably beats NY for sheer density of population and crowded trains etc."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
*new claims* that week.surrey_commuter said:
I would love to know how they compile these stats as 2-300,000 is impossible to achieve. I wonder what they are measuring.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....
So 1% of the entire US population signed on this week.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Our road is a popular route onto the Lancashire fells from Chorley.
Yesterday was the busiest I have ever known the street with foot traffic.
Today is very quiet. Mrs and daughter went to do the horses which are on the edge of the moors and the police were driving up and down continually.
There has been a step change in enforcement. TBH, much respect to them for managing to get on top of this. Yesterday was ridiculous.
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Depends how you driveStevo_666 said:
I went out i the car yesterday and went the long way to the shop as I needed to make sure the battery won't go flat. Figured I'm not a danger to anyone just driving round in a circle.orraloon said:In town getting truck fettled pre MOT which now is not happening next week. Did a minor shopping trawl while waiting, v quiet. Police on streets and mall stopping oldies and giving them the follow the rules or else you will get fined. They did not stop me 😁
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Cheersrick_chasey said:
*new claims* that week.surrey_commuter said:
I would love to know how they compile these stats as 2-300,000 is impossible to achieve. I wonder what they are measuring.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....
So 1% of the entire US population signed on this week.0 -
Wonder what the change in approach actually meanstailwindhome said:0 -
Neil Ferguson, whose modelling suggested 250,000 deaths which led to lockdown, now saying UK deaths 'could be substantially lower' than 20,000 -- and two thirds would have died in the next 6 months anyway.
Behind a paywall unfortunately.
https://t.co/5iyJdXlPbp0 -
A reminder. Until we have a vaccine, unless the majority of people get it, it will keep coming around.shortfall said:Neil Ferguson, whose modelling suggested 250,000 deaths which led to lockdown, now saying UK deaths 'could be substantially lower' than 20,000 -- and two thirds would have died in the next 6 months anyway.
Behind a paywall unfortunately.
https://t.co/5iyJdXlPbp
See the spanish flu. We are still very much in the first bump.
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Absolutely brutal numbers. Was working at a client site out in Southern California until last Sunday, managed to get a half empty A380 back from LAX. Taxi driver picking us up welcomed us back with a cheery "welcome to the apocalypse", his business is f***ed, hopefully Mercedes benz finance are reasonable...surrey_commuter said:
Cheersrick_chasey said:
*new claims* that week.surrey_commuter said:
I would love to know how they compile these stats as 2-300,000 is impossible to achieve. I wonder what they are measuring.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....
So 1% of the entire US population signed on this week.
Arguably America has the capability to truly lead the world effort in fighting this battle. In the same way they did (eventually) in WW2. However, given the state of their politics, I wouldn't bet on it. I think this may be a world event that rubs the shine off their super power status.0 -
If the US spent what was required on their healthcare as they did on their military they'd be fine, but they do not. Guns, not butter, for the states.Jeremy.89 said:
Absolutely brutal numbers. Was working at a client site out in Southern California until last Sunday, managed to get a half empty A380 back from LAX. Taxi driver picking us up welcomed us back with a cheery "welcome to the apocalypse", his business is f***ed, hopefully Mercedes benz finance are reasonable...surrey_commuter said:
Cheersrick_chasey said:
*new claims* that week.surrey_commuter said:
I would love to know how they compile these stats as 2-300,000 is impossible to achieve. I wonder what they are measuring.rick_chasey said:The errr, jobless numbers in the states are.....well, they're gonna ruin the charts forever.
Normally they bumble around between 200,000 and 300,000. Today. 3.2 million. For context, the peak of the financial crisis in '08 was....700,000.....
So 1% of the entire US population signed on this week.
Arguably America has the capability to truly lead the world effort in fighting this battle. In the same way they did (eventually) in WW2. However, given the state of their politics, I wouldn't bet on it. I think this may be a world event that rubs the shine off their super power status.
They are exceptionally well placed to fight a war. They are exceptionally vulnerable (for a developed country) to a pandemic or a health crisis.
I suspect if they do fare as badly as smart people suspect they will, it could really change the entire dynamic of american politics in a way the second world war did.0 -
Timing apparently.kingstonian said:
Wonder what the change in approach actually meanstailwindhome said:
Sounds like they are priming for today's to be a high number.0 -
Another interesting take that questions the lockdown strategy and the recording of deaths.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think/amp?__twitter_impression=true1 -
Interesting reading. This from the last paragraph was what I took away from it:kingstongraham said:
"We are in the midst of an epoch-making event and to fight it we need credible data on the reality of the situation"0 -
Sorry to hear pross0
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shortfall said:
Interesting reading. This from the last paragraph was what I took away from it:kingstongraham said:
"We are in the midst of an epoch-making event and to fight it we need credible data on the reality of the situation"
Yep, we have different countries recording deaths differently. Some are recording only those directly attributable to Covid-19, others recording a death where the deceased happened to show as positive for Covid-19, which makes it pretty difficult to get a true picture day-to-day. It will all come out in the wash in the months to come, when the data is pored over and some sense of consistency is brought to it, but can definitely give misleading perspectives at the moment.0 -
