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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,815
    How long is it generally taking from exposure to symptoms these days?

    Had a car journey on Monday with someone who came down with symptoms the next day and subsequently tested positive. A bit of a worry as my mother and 96 year old grandmother were also in the car.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    mrb123 said:

    How long is it generally taking from exposure to symptoms these days?

    Had a car journey on Monday with someone who came down with symptoms the next day and subsequently tested positive. A bit of a worry as my mother and 96 year old grandmother were also in the car.


    Bad luck, though even if your mother & grandmother do get it, I don't think their age should be too much of a worry with the current strain, and the treatments available if they suffer more than the generally mild symptoms most people seem to get. 🤞🤞
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  • wallace_and_gromit
    wallace_and_gromit Posts: 3,608
    TheBigBean said:

    This report is quite interesting for followers of the death olympics. I haven't read it all and I don't know how accurate it is for each country, but it shows that, as expected, Spain and Italy significantly underreported deaths. What's more surprising is so did Germany whose excess deaths are very similar to the UK.

    http://www.thelancet-press.com/embargo/COVIDexcessmortality.pdf

    One of the less reported Covid studies in the UK. I guess many sides of the political world have a vested interest in portraying Boris as uniquely incompetent. Though at the moment it is hard to get much airtime given the Ukraine situation.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    So my boss tested positive in the middle of the day in the office after I was next to him this morning (faint line).

    Let’s see if office ventilation and 3 jabs will keep it at bay. I suspect not.

    you worry too much, go and snog him and get it done
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,928
    My wife tested positive on sunday, eldest daughter on monday morning, youngest held out until today before testing positive despite having had pretty much the same exposure as her sister so I guess there is quite a bit of variation.
    mrb123 said:

    How long is it generally taking from exposure to symptoms these days?

    Had a car journey on Monday with someone who came down with symptoms the next day and subsequently tested positive. A bit of a worry as my mother and 96 year old grandmother were also in the car.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Gosh, I remember the times when covid was forefront of the news, all day every day. Seems so last year. The world has moved on. Not necessarily in a positive way.
  • mully79
    mully79 Posts: 904
    Spending the day working with someone Covid positive as they don’t have to isolate is so messed up.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,794
    I believe it took me 6 days from exposure to testing positive. I’d had four jabs but still got it quite bad and it lasted a good 10 days. Still not feeling great nearly three weeks after recovering. Some days just feel really crap. My memory is completely shot though. Couldn’t remember the name of someone I’ve worked with for 6 years! It’s a real struggle.
    Went down the local shop earlier. You would never have thought COVID is still an issue. Not a mask to be seen apart from me.


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  • dannbodge
    dannbodge Posts: 1,152
    shirley_basso said:

    Don't envy you testing toddlers, or having 2 so close together!

    It's not too bad. The 3yo we just pin down and bribe with chocolate buttons.
    The 16month old the wife does and then she screams and comes to me for comfort, again bribe with a bit of chocolate and they're fine.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    dannbodge said:

    shirley_basso said:

    Don't envy you testing toddlers, or having 2 so close together!

    It's not too bad. The 3yo we just pin down and bribe with chocolate buttons.
    The 16month old the wife does and then she screams and comes to me for comfort, again bribe with a bit of chocolate and they're fine.
    We found it was easier to let our 4yo do her own, just told her to imagine she was picking her nose.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,813
    photonic69 said:

    I believe it took me 6 days from exposure to testing positive. I’d had four jabs but still got it quite bad and it lasted a good 10 days. Still not feeling great nearly three weeks after recovering. Some days just feel really censored . My memory is completely shot though. Couldn’t remember the name of someone I’ve worked with for 6 years! It’s a real struggle.
    Went down the local shop earlier. You would never have thought COVID is still an issue. Not a mask to be seen apart from me.

    Was just out for a drink with a friend that had it a little over 2 weeks ago, he was saying much the same. He was away working on a project and his brain just wouldn't function. He was having to take notes of everything as his memory was failing him, and he knew how wrong that was. Also still suffering with fatigue.
    4 others in my circle of friends currently positive, but I'm 2 different countries and not caught from initial friend of the first anecdote.
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  • dannbodge
    dannbodge Posts: 1,152
    pangolin said:

    dannbodge said:

    shirley_basso said:

    Don't envy you testing toddlers, or having 2 so close together!

    It's not too bad. The 3yo we just pin down and bribe with chocolate buttons.
    The 16month old the wife does and then she screams and comes to me for comfort, again bribe with a bit of chocolate and they're fine.
    We found it was easier to let our 4yo do her own, just told her to imagine she was picking her nose.
    That's not a bad idea tbf
    We've got to test him at least another 2 times (for his 2 negative tests) so might try that.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Not sure if we've discussed this on here (not following the thread religiously rather than Covid related brain fog) but apparently even mild Covid can leave people with a measurable reduction in brain size/grey matter.

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    There doesn't seem to be much interest in this latest study, but there is some more analysis in the Times

    Raghib Ali, an epidemiologist at Cambridge University, said the paper would correct “widespread misconceptions” about how badly Britain had fared during the pandemic. All home nations had roughly similar death rates.

    Ali said there was “no clear relationship between levels of excess mortality and different levels of restrictions . . . across western Europe or indeed the whole of Europe”. For example, Sweden, which alone among western countries held out against formal lockdowns in 2020, had an excess death rate of 91 per 100,000, indistinguishable from Denmark and Finland.



    https://archive.ph/basUC
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?

    DeVlaeminck said:

    Not sure if we've discussed this on here (not following the thread religiously rather than Covid related brain fog) but apparently even mild Covid can leave people with a measurable reduction in brain size/grey matter.

    Saw that. Seemed to be a case of more research needed to establish what effect the changes had and how long they lasted.
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  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,794
    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Well it finally got me. Thanks boss.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    rick_chasey said:

    Well it finally got me. Thanks boss.


    Bad luck. Have a lie down on the sofa, maybe?

    Fingers crossed it's mild for you.

    I'm expecting to get it at school.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.

    What, to spread it unnecessarily?
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,162
    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.
    It isn't though. Even if the CFR is the same, it's about 3 times more transmissible.

    So at best it has been compared to the cfr for a bad flu season, not an average one, and is both three times more transmissible and not seasonal.

    And that analysis based on the population having peak post vaccination immunity.

    How long is a flu season? 3 months?

    So back of the envelope calculation has covid still roughly 12 times as bad as a bad flu across the population, which is likely to rise as immunity wanes and the next round of vaccination doesn't reach as many people.

    But yeah, other than that I agree with you. Nothing to see here.
  • pangolin
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    Hope it's not bad Rick
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  • briantrumpet
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    Oops.



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  • pblakeney
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    pangolin said:



    Hope it's not bad Rick

    Is that a wraparound? 😱
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    edited March 2022
    briantrumpet said:

    Oops.



    Messy in Hong Kong as not that many people got vaccinated due to the low number of cases.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    edited March 2022
    TheBigBean said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Oops.



    Messy in Hong Kong as not that many people got vaccinated due to the low number of cases.

    Yup. Who knew that being blasé about covid could result in bad outcomes?
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.

    What, to spread it unnecessarily?
    It's funny isn't it how those that talk about the covid risk in supermarkets don't have their mates round and insist on all the windows open in winter and masks all round. It funny how that supermarket seems more risky than the many other social interactions they have that are clearly much worse.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    john80 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.

    What, to spread it unnecessarily?
    It's funny isn't it how those that talk about the covid risk in supermarkets don't have their mates round and insist on all the windows open in winter and masks all round. It funny how that supermarket seems more risky than the many other social interactions they have that are clearly much worse.

    I don't have my mates round, still open windows where I work (even when it's really cold), and haven't eaten in an indoor restaurant or sat in a pub since March 2020. So I'll allow myself to make the observation I did.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,910
    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.

    What, to spread it unnecessarily?
    It's funny isn't it how those that talk about the covid risk in supermarkets don't have their mates round and insist on all the windows open in winter and masks all round. It funny how that supermarket seems more risky than the many other social interactions they have that are clearly much worse.

    I don't have my mates round, still open windows where I work (even when it's really cold), and haven't eaten in an indoor restaurant or sat in a pub since March 2020. So I'll allow myself to make the observation I did.
    This is why it is quite refreshing to finally get it. You can move on from all that.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,337
    TheBigBean said:

    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    john80 said:

    photonic69 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Numbers going up again. Wave no. 4 is this?
    .

    “ The ONS says it's too early to say what's behind the rise in cases.…” - from the BBC website.

    No sh!t Sherlock! Everyone I see around the supermarket is unmasked and openly coughing everywhere. People seem to believe the pandemic is over cos the asshat government said so.

    Or maybe they looked at the research that said it was about as dangerous as flu and made a rational decision.

    What, to spread it unnecessarily?
    It's funny isn't it how those that talk about the covid risk in supermarkets don't have their mates round and insist on all the windows open in winter and masks all round. It funny how that supermarket seems more risky than the many other social interactions they have that are clearly much worse.

    I don't have my mates round, still open windows where I work (even when it's really cold), and haven't eaten in an indoor restaurant or sat in a pub since March 2020. So I'll allow myself to make the observation I did.
    This is why it is quite refreshing to finally get it. You can move on from all that.
    I'm not deliberately going to get it, as I've several friends who have been really quite poorly with it. And it might screw up my travel plans, if I get it at the wrong time.

    Really, the mitigations don't bother me.
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