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My kids are at secondary school - last week the head wrote to all parents saying mask-wearing would continue to Feb half term, at which point a decision will be taken on how to progress after the holiday.0
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kingstonian said:
My kids are at secondary school - last week the head wrote to all parents saying mask-wearing would continue to Feb half term, at which point a decision will be taken on how to progress after the holiday.
They've said the same at my kids school - many pupils are saying, the government say we don't have to wear them, so we're not wearing them.
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The Education Secretary has backed the kids - said schools should not try and impose mask wearing - I'd have thought it's not a fight that teachers would want - how do you reply when little Johnny says my mum said I don't have to wear one and the government say you can't make me ?
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Looks like my mask wearing will be down to a few tube journeys a week in a few days time."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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It looks to be settling down at a number of cases twice as high as before Christmas so I think I'll stick with wearing a mask when it makes sense to and is not completely impractical for a while.0
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Exactly what I'm doing ta. Spare us the sanctimonious stuff though, you're not telling anyone anything newrick_chasey said:
Consider others, not just yourselfStevo_666 said:Looks like my mask wearing will be down to a few tube journeys a week in a few days time.
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The slightly strange crowing about not having to wear a mask any more isn't new either Stevo.Stevo_666 said:
Exactly what I'm doing ta. Spare us the sanctimonious stuff though, you're not telling anyone anything newrick_chasey said:
Consider others, not just yourselfStevo_666 said:Looks like my mask wearing will be down to a few tube journeys a week in a few days time.
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Is there any reason to wear a mask if you have recently recovered from Omicron? Other than politeness, the only reason I can think of is if delta is still circulating.
Having advocated mask wearing since March 2020, I think I might be about to cross to the other side. Omicron is sufficiently contagious and people's mask wearing ability sufficiently useless that I'm not sure it helps any more.0 -
Numbers by variant here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-variants-genomically-confirmed-case-numbers/variants-distribution-of-case-data-21-january-2022TheBigBean said:Is there any reason to wear a mask if you have recently recovered from Omicron? Other than politeness, the only reason I can think of is if delta is still circulating.
Having advocated mask wearing since March 2020, I think I might be about to cross to the other side. Omicron is sufficiently contagious and people's mask wearing ability sufficiently useless that I'm not sure it helps any more.
New Omicron cases: 216,084. New Delta cases: 736.0 -
I read something about a new omicron varient in I think it was Scandi that was causing people to get Omicron twice in short succession.TheBigBean said:Is there any reason to wear a mask if you have recently recovered from Omicron? Other than politeness, the only reason I can think of is if delta is still circulating.
Having advocated mask wearing since March 2020, I think I might be about to cross to the other side. Omicron is sufficiently contagious and people's mask wearing ability sufficiently useless that I'm not sure it helps any more.
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Thanks. That's persuaded me that Omicron is providing protection against Delta. In which case, I guess I'll be mask free except out of politeness.kingstongraham said:
Numbers by variant here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-variants-genomically-confirmed-case-numbers/variants-distribution-of-case-data-21-january-2022TheBigBean said:Is there any reason to wear a mask if you have recently recovered from Omicron? Other than politeness, the only reason I can think of is if delta is still circulating.
Having advocated mask wearing since March 2020, I think I might be about to cross to the other side. Omicron is sufficiently contagious and people's mask wearing ability sufficiently useless that I'm not sure it helps any more.
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Who's crowing? Simply stating a fact is not the same thing.pangolin said:
The slightly strange crowing about not having to wear a mask any more isn't new either Stevo.Stevo_666 said:
Exactly what I'm doing ta. Spare us the sanctimonious stuff though, you're not telling anyone anything newrick_chasey said:
Consider others, not just yourselfStevo_666 said:Looks like my mask wearing will be down to a few tube journeys a week in a few days time.
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Fair point. Maybe some people on here want us to look polite and considerate.TheBigBean said:Is there any reason to wear a mask if you have recently recovered from Omicron? Other than politeness, the only reason I can think of is if delta is still circulating.
Having advocated mask wearing since March 2020, I think I might be about to cross to the other side. Omicron is sufficiently contagious and people's mask wearing ability sufficiently useless that I'm not sure it helps any more."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If you were practicing what you preach about being considerate to others, surely you'd post less on here?rick_chasey said:Are you, though.
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A bit weird when the tube is probably where you are least likely to catch it/spread it.Stevo_666 said:Looks like my mask wearing will be down to a few tube journeys a week in a few days time.
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TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
Yes, hard to get it that way, but if there was a lot of it in the air you might expect to find evidence of viral material on surfaces as well, even if that wasn't an infection route. Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
What makes it a bit less risky is nobody talks to anyone on the tube.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
That's a commuter specific mitigant. There's lots of chat on Sat evening, for example.kingstongraham said:
What makes it a bit less risky is nobody talks to anyone on the tube.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
I think you massively underestimate the difference between a mechanically ventilated train carriage in which you spend, maybe 15 minutes and a couple of hours in a stuffy pub.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Also - most people do wear masks on the tube.rjsterry said:
I think you massively underestimate the difference between a mechanically ventilated train carriage in which you spend, maybe 15 minutes and a couple of hours in a stuffy pub.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
Not very effectively.kingstongraham said:
Also - most people do wear masks on the tube.rjsterry said:
I think you massively underestimate the difference between a mechanically ventilated train carriage in which you spend, maybe 15 minutes and a couple of hours in a stuffy pub.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0 -
Or perhaps more effectively than you think. I've not seen any suggestion of significant outbreaks from use of the tube.TheBigBean said:
Not very effectively.kingstongraham said:
Also - most people do wear masks on the tube.rjsterry said:
I think you massively underestimate the difference between a mechanically ventilated train carriage in which you spend, maybe 15 minutes and a couple of hours in a stuffy pub.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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It would be impossible to determine.rjsterry said:
Or perhaps more effectively than you think. I've not seen any suggestion of significant outbreaks from use of the tube.TheBigBean said:
Not very effectively.kingstongraham said:
Also - most people do wear masks on the tube.rjsterry said:
I think you massively underestimate the difference between a mechanically ventilated train carriage in which you spend, maybe 15 minutes and a couple of hours in a stuffy pub.TheBigBean said:
I think it is a high risk activity. The doors open every couple of mins, yes, but people sit there for decent lengths time in close proximity to many others. Unless the window between carriages is open and providing ventilation, I can't think of much more risky than a crowded pub.rjsterry said:
Let's look at it the other way around. Is a vigorously ventilated tube system in which people spend relatively short periods of time likely to be where a significant number of infections occur? I'd suggest not, especially compared to meeting someone in a building at the end of the journey.TheBigBean said:
On surfaces which is consistent with the understanding that it is hard to get covid by touching surfaces. Not related to masks and the person next to you breathing.rjsterry said:
TfL have published a number of reports showing that they have not been able to detect viral material on the tube network. Anecdotally, I have been using PT regularly since early summer 2020 for site visits and commuting to the office and have still avoided it as far as I know.TheBigBean said:0
