The big Coronavirus thread
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Exactly.kingstongraham said:
No idea what's the thinking behind this.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure who flagged this post because it speaks the truth.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:All sport behind closed doors in Wales from 26th December.
A number of the main sporting events were already hit by Covid, so Cardiff v Scarlets in the United Rugby Championship (URC) on that day will be the first major fixture affected.
Ironically, Swansea go to Millwall on 26 December, along with their traveling supporters.
New year, same old year, it seems.
Let's get more people inside pubs to watch it.
Everybody mixing indoors throughout Christmas but it’s a couple of thousand, who have to show negative proof, outdoors for a couple of hours who are going to cause a Covid spike.
Does not compute…"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Ok that's so stupid I'm not gonna answer it.
Feel free to do a victory dance if you think you're actually right about this.
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Consistent with the "let them drown" attitude, I suppose.0
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Whatever you want to call it, it was banned when that photo was takenjohn80 said:
Got any more examples where it would not be wise to drink before doing something. Are these the types of scenario I was commenting on. As a small business owner I an aware what gets me work and understand there are a number of things I might do to increase my chances. They are still work even if the tax man does not think so.webboo said:
So you are going in for surgery and would be quite happy for the surgical team to be having cheese and wine at your pre op meeting.john80 said:
It might not have been for tax purposes but it is a pretty narrow view of work. Common man this is getting ridiculous.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but it wasn't work.john80 said:
It might get you your next contract though. When you were a contractor was this not also an important part of being a contractor.kingstongraham said:When I was a contractor, I couldn't charge for time spent in the pub.
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I was unaware that Dom was on a week to week contract and only was able to continue with his job by constantly hob nobbing with Boris.0
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Dom thought it was the other way round.Jezyboy said:I was unaware that Dom was on a week to week contract and only was able to continue with his job by constantly hob nobbing with Boris.
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TBF the only way to get, and keep, a job with BJ is to massage his; ego.Jezyboy said:I was unaware that Dom was on a week to week contract and only was able to continue with his job by constantly hob nobbing with Boris.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
One day you boys will figure out the link between freedom of choice and variability in outcome. You might then figure out the reality that to have freedom of choice you often have to let people make the wrong choice and learn from their mistakes assuming they get a second chance. Some don't.0
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From a guy that does not have a meaningfull solution that is touching. Your hands must be so tired from all the wringing.kingstongraham said:Consistent with the "let them drown" attitude, I suppose.
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If you think it's going to be so bad that you need to have a "let very sick people die" policy, then respectfully, you don’t even have a laughable solution.john80 said:
From a guy that does not have a meaningfull solution that is touching. Your hands must be so tired from all the wringing.kingstongraham said:Consistent with the "let them drown" attitude, I suppose.
I don't know what the right answer is. It's either more restrictions immediately or it's not going to be too bad and we don't need more restrictions. Thinking it's going to be carnage and doing nothing is definitely wrong.0 -
Get real you cannot have work situations where it’s ok to drink alcohol. I wonder how many people at your business meetings where alcohol was consumed drove afterwards.john80 said:
Got any more examples where it would not be wise to drink before doing something. Are these the types of scenario I was commenting on. As a small business owner I an aware what gets me work and understand there are a number of things I might do to increase my chances. They are still work even if the tax man does not think so.webboo said:
So you are going in for surgery and would be quite happy for the surgical team to be having cheese and wine at your pre op meeting.john80 said:
It might not have been for tax purposes but it is a pretty narrow view of work. Common man this is getting ridiculous.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but it wasn't work.john80 said:
It might get you your next contract though. When you were a contractor was this not also an important part of being a contractor.kingstongraham said:When I was a contractor, I couldn't charge for time spent in the pub.
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If you lot think drinks after work counts as work you’re all utter mugs.
The press secretary that year literally laughed with journos on camera about passing off parties or illegal gatherings by the gov't as "business meetings"
If you believe them you are very gullible, and you're demonstrating why it's worth lying through your teeth on stuff, as even when it's cut and dried, people will still believe them.0 -
Irony of course is that the "no lockdown" lot are giving the gov't an excuse not to support the businesses who are losing trade because of the pandemic regardless.0
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Not many as there are other options and it is illegal. Not many professionals these days have do little self control to risk their license. You keep going with the lazy stereotypes.webboo said:
Get real you cannot have work situations where it’s ok to drink alcohol. I wonder how many people at your business meetings where alcohol was consumed drove afterwards.john80 said:
Got any more examples where it would not be wise to drink before doing something. Are these the types of scenario I was commenting on. As a small business owner I an aware what gets me work and understand there are a number of things I might do to increase my chances. They are still work even if the tax man does not think so.webboo said:
So you are going in for surgery and would be quite happy for the surgical team to be having cheese and wine at your pre op meeting.john80 said:
It might not have been for tax purposes but it is a pretty narrow view of work. Common man this is getting ridiculous.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but it wasn't work.john80 said:
It might get you your next contract though. When you were a contractor was this not also an important part of being a contractor.kingstongraham said:When I was a contractor, I couldn't charge for time spent in the pub.
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I'm going to blame covid for the number of new years eve fireworks.0
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kingstongraham said:
If you think it's going to be so bad that you need to have a "let very sick people die" policy, then respectfully, you don’t even have a laughable solution.john80 said:
From a guy that does not have a meaningfull solution that is touching. Your hands must be so tired from all the wringing.kingstongraham said:Consistent with the "let them drown" attitude, I suppose.
I don't know what the right answer is. It's either more restrictions immediately or it's not going to be too bad and we don't need more restrictions. Thinking it's going to be carnage and doing nothing is definitely wrong.
The problem is that people that know more than you or I don't think restrictions are as clear cut as you think.
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Well, hospitalisations increase as cases increases, but the 'length of the couple' has stretched.First.Aspect said:
Is it just me that thinks that the case numbers and hospitalisations look distinctly coupled?tailwindhome said:“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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webboo said:
Get real you cannot have work situations where it’s ok to drink alcohol. I wonder how many people at your business meetings where alcohol was consumed drove afterwards.john80 said:
Got any more examples where it would not be wise to drink before doing something. Are these the types of scenario I was commenting on. As a small business owner I an aware what gets me work and understand there are a number of things I might do to increase my chances. They are still work even if the tax man does not think so.webboo said:
So you are going in for surgery and would be quite happy for the surgical team to be having cheese and wine at your pre op meeting.john80 said:
It might not have been for tax purposes but it is a pretty narrow view of work. Common man this is getting ridiculous.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but it wasn't work.john80 said:
It might get you your next contract though. When you were a contractor was this not also an important part of being a contractor.kingstongraham said:When I was a contractor, I couldn't charge for time spent in the pub.
Almost all my nephew’s business meetings involves drinking alcohol………….
………..he imports and sells wine.
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Bless.john80 said:
Not many as there are other options and it is illegal. Not many professionals these days have do little self control to risk their license. You keep going with the lazy stereotypes.webboo said:
Get real you cannot have work situations where it’s ok to drink alcohol. I wonder how many people at your business meetings where alcohol was consumed drove afterwards.john80 said:
Got any more examples where it would not be wise to drink before doing something. Are these the types of scenario I was commenting on. As a small business owner I an aware what gets me work and understand there are a number of things I might do to increase my chances. They are still work even if the tax man does not think so.webboo said:
So you are going in for surgery and would be quite happy for the surgical team to be having cheese and wine at your pre op meeting.john80 said:
It might not have been for tax purposes but it is a pretty narrow view of work. Common man this is getting ridiculous.kingstongraham said:
Yes, but it wasn't work.john80 said:
It might get you your next contract though. When you were a contractor was this not also an important part of being a contractor.kingstongraham said:When I was a contractor, I couldn't charge for time spent in the pub.
And you sit there accusing others of naivety. 😁1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Happens all the time in my industry. People are deemed to be intelligent enough to respect local laws as well.webboo said:
Get real you cannot have work situations where it’s ok to drink alcohol. I wonder how many people at your business meetings where alcohol was consumed drove afterwards.
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If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?0
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Objection: irrelevant hypothetical as it is not "at the end of the working day", plus, in the picture in question, there are no "clients".TheBigBean said:If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?
Who was BJ business developing? His newborn?0 -
It was a response to the statement that anything involving alcohol can't be work.rick_chasey said:
Objection: irrelevant hypothetical as it is not "at the end of the working day", plus, in the picture in question, there are no "clients".TheBigBean said:If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?
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Right but that's just taking it further away from the issue at hand.TheBigBean said:
It was a response to the statement that anything involving alcohol can't be work.rick_chasey said:
Objection: irrelevant hypothetical as it is not "at the end of the working day", plus, in the picture in question, there are no "clients".TheBigBean said:If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?
Who was BJ business developing? His newborn?
It's quite clear the picture is of BoJo and colleagues socialising over cheese and wine after work.
Given the rules everyone else abided by, either in spirit or in actual law, it is a really really bad look.
You can spin it all you want and play devil's advocate if you so wish, but that is the reality. A lot of people sacrificed an awful lot during that same time, and to even contemplate doing what that photo is of would be seen as ludicrous.
I've seen videos of grieving families being separated at funerals because they're not adhering to the social distancing rules *on the same day*.
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That is patently untrue however, how many of us on here were having meals or business meetings last May when this was taken? I certainly wasn't. I was quite glad of the break from them to be honestTheBigBean said:
It was a response to the statement that anything involving alcohol can't be work.rick_chasey said:
Objection: irrelevant hypothetical as it is not "at the end of the working day", plus, in the picture in question, there are no "clients".TheBigBean said:If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?
Who was BJ business developing? His newborn?
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Have none of you seen those cop dramas from the 70s and 80s, where the detective always keeps a bottle of scotch in his desk drawer..??TheBigBean said:If I have lunch with a client and a bottle of wine is ordered, does it cease to be business?
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Won"t make a difference to attendances at regional rugby teams.blazing_saddles said:
Not sure who flagged this post because it speaks the truth.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:All sport behind closed doors in Wales from 26th December.
A number of the main sporting events were already hit by Covid, so Cardiff v Scarlets in the United Rugby Championship (URC) on that day will be the first major fixture affected.
Ironically, Swansea go to Millwall on 26 December, along with their traveling supporters.
New year, same old year, it seems.0
