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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Aren't rollers better for your sanity?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Saw a video on this on Dutch tv: he hates turbos so much he refuses to use them.
    _
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rigoberto Uran reckons that only 3 WT will survive if the Tour does not happen this year.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uran-three-worldtour-teams-could-survive-if-tour-de-france-is-cancelled/
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    rick_chasey said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Saw a video on this on Dutch tv: he hates turbos so much he refuses to use them.
    So he is going to do badly in any post-lockdown races!
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    TheBigBean said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Aren't rollers better for your sanity?
    Most pros seem to be doing double days, a sensible way of doing that would probably be intervals on the turbo and some endurance on the rollers for sanity's sake.

    I was trying to get hold of some rollers to put in the garden but cheap ones are hard to come by at the moment.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    bobmcstuff said:

    rick_chasey said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Saw a video on this on Dutch tv: he hates turbos so much he refuses to use them.
    So he is going to do badly in any post-lockdown races!
    Doubt he gives a sh!t right now. I still maintain no races will happen for the remainder of 2020.
    _
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    rick_chasey said:

    bobmcstuff said:

    rick_chasey said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Saw a video on this on Dutch tv: he hates turbos so much he refuses to use them.
    So he is going to do badly in any post-lockdown races!
    Doubt he gives a sh!t right now. I still maintain no races will happen for the remainder of 2020.
    In case it does, I'll be keeping it in mind for my PTP choices
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    Sagan too:

    'I am a real cyclist, not a virtual one,' Sagan put bluntly. 'If this is gonna be the future, I don’t think so. Maybe I can do some races on Zwift with an electric bike. What do you think about that? Just kidding.'

    He added, 'we will see how long this period will be, but Zwift races, with my condition, with what I’m doing, with my preparation and stuff, I don’t think so.'

    However, while his usual rivals Greg van Avermaet, Oliver Naesen and Zdenek Stybar battle it at the 'Virtual Tour of Flanders', Sagan has drawn a clear line to racing online.

    In fact, as he later said in his Instagram video, he is only just making friends with his indoor rollers.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    There were reports that Sagan was falling out of love with it all anyway and some rumours in Belgium that this would be the last year.

    it was true very early on that he doesn't really like the road anywhere near as much as other cycling and so I can see that if he finds that boring he's going to find training indoors unbearable.

    These top guys like Valverde and Sagan - they don't need to prove anything.

    It shows how hungry Froome is to prove he is still the #1 guy in Sky Ineos.
    _
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    bobmcstuff said:

    TheBigBean said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Aren't rollers better for your sanity?
    Most pros seem to be doing double days, a sensible way of doing that would probably be intervals on the turbo and some endurance on the rollers for sanity's sake.

    I was trying to get hold of some rollers to put in the garden but cheap ones are hard to come by at the moment.
    I'd be happy to sell you mine, but I suspect the exchange would be hard to arrange given the whole lock down thing, and you being in Manchester?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    TheBigBean said:

    bobmcstuff said:

    TheBigBean said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I assume he's got a turbo set up rather than just rollers - I'd find turbo hard enough rollers for hours a day would kill me .

    Good point about training without knowing for what

    Aren't rollers better for your sanity?
    Most pros seem to be doing double days, a sensible way of doing that would probably be intervals on the turbo and some endurance on the rollers for sanity's sake.

    I was trying to get hold of some rollers to put in the garden but cheap ones are hard to come by at the moment.
    I'd be happy to sell you mine, but I suspect the exchange would be hard to arrange given the whole lock down thing, and you being in Manchester?
    Yeah, plus I've not really got anywhere to store it, and the fact it'll probably completely stop being used as soon as lockdown ends!
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    TheBigBean said:

    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.

    Sagan is living in Monaco where recreational cycling is banned.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    blazing_saddles said:

    Rigoberto Uran reckons that only 3 WT will survive if the Tour does not happen this year.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uran-three-worldtour-teams-could-survive-if-tour-de-france-is-cancelled/

    interesting article, but just ike the Valverde one, it's one riders opinion with no facts.

    Not saying Uran is wrong, but does he know the finances of all the WT teams
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    joe2019 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.

    Sagan is living in Monaco where recreational cycling is banned.
    Ah, paying the price for tax dodging.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    TheBigBean said:

    joe2019 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.

    Sagan is living in Monaco where recreational cycling is banned.
    Ah, paying the price for tax dodging.
    With the added benefit that is a stunning area to ride your bike and live.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    gsk82 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    joe2019 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.

    Sagan is living in Monaco where recreational cycling is banned.
    Ah, paying the price for tax dodging.
    With the added benefit that the surrounding area is a stunning area to ride your bike and live.
    FTFY.
    Not impressed by Monaco in the slightest.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    pblakeney said:

    gsk82 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    joe2019 said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Sagan could presumably get out on his mountain bike.

    Sagan is living in Monaco where recreational cycling is banned.
    Ah, paying the price for tax dodging.
    With the added benefit that the surrounding area is a stunning area to ride your bike and live.
    FTFY.
    Not impressed by Monaco in the slightest.
    I did say area. I agree that Monaco is just a nothing place.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    joe2019 said:

    Sagan too:

    'I am a real cyclist, not a virtual one,' Sagan put bluntly. 'If this is gonna be the future, I don’t think so. Maybe I can do some races on Zwift with an electric bike. What do you think about that? Just kidding.'

    He added, 'we will see how long this period will be, but Zwift races, with my condition, with what I’m doing, with my preparation and stuff, I don’t think so.'

    However, while his usual rivals Greg van Avermaet, Oliver Naesen and Zdenek Stybar battle it at the 'Virtual Tour of Flanders', Sagan has drawn a clear line to racing online.

    In fact, as he later said in his Instagram video, he is only just making friends with his indoor rollers.


    It's hard to do wheelies on a turbo trainer
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    RichN95. said:

    joe2019 said:

    Sagan too:

    'I am a real cyclist, not a virtual one,' Sagan put bluntly. 'If this is gonna be the future, I don’t think so. Maybe I can do some races on Zwift with an electric bike. What do you think about that? Just kidding.'

    He added, 'we will see how long this period will be, but Zwift races, with my condition, with what I’m doing, with my preparation and stuff, I don’t think so.'

    However, while his usual rivals Greg van Avermaet, Oliver Naesen and Zdenek Stybar battle it at the 'Virtual Tour of Flanders', Sagan has drawn a clear line to racing online.

    In fact, as he later said in his Instagram video, he is only just making friends with his indoor rollers.


    It's hard to do wheelies on a turbo trainer
    Now that's a challenge if ever I heard one. No! Wait a minute...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I bet you can...
    _
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    I know for a fact I would end up having to hospital and that sh1t just ain't right in these Medical Hero times!

    Now Sagan on the other hand...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    I wondered if you could stand up on rollers. I didn't see why not in theory. I didn't try it twice
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Easy on a turbo trainer as you just rotate back...Holding it might be more of a challenge. People use similar things to practice learning where the balance point is.



    Rollers would be fun...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    I've just seen Danny McAskill doing ridiculous things in the gym on his bike, if anyone can do it - he can.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    TheBigBean said:

    I wondered if you could stand up on rollers. I didn't see why not in theory. I didn't try it twice

    You can - just practice
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,887
    DeVlaeminck said:

    TheBigBean said:

    I wondered if you could stand up on rollers. I didn't see why not in theory. I didn't try it twice

    You can - just practice
    Steep learning curve.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    I've never been able to get started and stop on rollers. I've always needed someone to hold the bike until I got going and then catch me at the end. I'd then coach kids of 9 or 10 who would ride on rollers for half an hour with no hands on the bars the cocky little gits.

    I used to hate being held by most starters in a TT as well. One or two got it spot on and I could even take my hands of the bars but most seemed to push you to where they thought your balance point was.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    edited April 2020
    TheBigBean said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    TheBigBean said:

    I wondered if you could stand up on rollers. I didn't see why not in theory. I didn't try it twice

    You can - just practice
    Steep learning curve.
    I admit I couldn't do it now - been about 10 years since I used rollers regularly.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]

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