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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    RichN95. said:




    Also looking at the helmets, he'll be riding for Jumbo Visma
    Have to say, as hat stands go that's a pretty cool one!
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    blazing_saddles said:

    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.

    If any of that actually happens it will be astonishing
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,542
    Vuelta was a tour of n Spain afair so no much in way of winter sun to look forward to.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    What I need now is a situation where somehow the race is on but I'm still homeworking in September-November
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    I don't really see any of it happening but, if it does this could all be quite fun!
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.

    If any of that actually happens it will be astonishing
    If it doesn't it will be catastrophic.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    RichN95. said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    It might be possible to do the Tour in late August....

    Here's my theory, that I formulated last night while browsing the quiet aisles of Waitrose for my weekly shopping...
    People with the virus and no symptoms (or very mild ones) will visit shops and supermarkets and leave traces of the virus on surfaces and products, by touching and breathing. By the evening, after hundreds of customers have been there, it must be pretty ubiquitous... but crucially the concentration is never enough to actually give you the disease, but might be enough to trigger a very weak immune response, possibly enough to give you a BIT of immunity... hence when you get exposed to a larger dose, you do get a mild disease.

    .

    Isn't that bit in bold basically what vaccination is? But it gives you a lot stronger immunity.
    If the does you get is enough to provoke an immune response,antibodies will be created and you'll be immune to reinfection.

  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    I can't really see how the tour is going to happen this year despite the new dates. What's actually going to have changed over summer that will mean it's a good idea for events like this to go ahead?
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    nickice said:

    RichN95. said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    It might be possible to do the Tour in late August....

    Here's my theory, that I formulated last night while browsing the quiet aisles of Waitrose for my weekly shopping...
    People with the virus and no symptoms (or very mild ones) will visit shops and supermarkets and leave traces of the virus on surfaces and products, by touching and breathing. By the evening, after hundreds of customers have been there, it must be pretty ubiquitous... but crucially the concentration is never enough to actually give you the disease, but might be enough to trigger a very weak immune response, possibly enough to give you a BIT of immunity... hence when you get exposed to a larger dose, you do get a mild disease.

    .

    Isn't that bit in bold basically what vaccination is? But it gives you a lot stronger immunity.
    I didn't quite understand the OP as if you get enough virus to provoke an immune response,antibodies will be created and you'll be immune to reinfection.

  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    focuszing723 said:

    RichN95. said:




    Also looking at the helmets, he'll be riding for Jumbo Visma
    Have to say, as hat stands go that's a pretty cool one!
    It looks like he's taken his School Pegs home from Primary school. Pump bags just out of sight I guess.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    blazing_saddles said:

    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.

    If any of that actually happens it will be astonishing
    If it doesn't it will be catastrophic.

    Not sure a couple of bike races skipping a year is catastrophic in the scheme of things these days.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,311
    fenix said:




    Not sure a couple of bike races skipping a year is catastrophic in the scheme of things these days.

    I guess he means catastrophic for cycling... with the all season cancelled, no revenues and most teams surviving on a shoestring at the best of times, it's difficult to see it bouncing back next year. The TdF is by far the most prominent event and might on its own "save the boat".

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  • Wheelspinner
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    Enric Mas of Movistar after a turbo session on his balcony today.

    Ouch.

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  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    blazing_saddles said:

    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.

    If any of that actually happens it will be astonishing
    If it doesn't it will be catastrophic.
    Hardly in the scheme of things

  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    Wheelspinner said:



    Enric Mas of Movistar after a turbo session on his balcony today.

    Ouch.

    That's dedication from the Danish champion
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Etape looking for a new date. Guess I won't be needing my accommodation in Nice this July...
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    It was inevitable the Tour would get first dibs, but that doesn't make it right. The Tour has an unhealthy hold over the rest of the season.
    I'd have like to see the Giro in September, the Worlds, then the Tour, followed by the Vuelta; October/November is surely okay weatherwise?
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,307
    andyrac said:

    It was inevitable the Tour would get first dibs, but that doesn't make it right. The Tour has an unhealthy hold over the rest of the season.
    I'd have like to see the Giro in September, the Worlds, then the Tour, followed by the Vuelta; October/November is surely okay weatherwise?

    Doubtful in the Alps and Pyrenees.
    Interest in a flattish Tour has been raised before. Meh.
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  • blazing_saddles
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    edited April 2020
    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    joe2019 said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Right so things become a little clearer. The UCI have now made a press release.

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-uci-reveals-the-broad-lines-of-the-revised-2020-uci-international-road-calendar

    So, it's TDF, then after the worlds we get the Giro with La Vuelta wrapping things up.
    Can't imagine the Vuelta field will be much good.

    If any of that actually happens it will be astonishing
    If it doesn't it will be catastrophic.
    Hardly in the scheme of things

    Ugo answered the exact same response to yours, above.
    To clarify, there is as little doubt in my mind that a complete season missed would potentially terminal for pro cycling, as you have that the world will still be in full lockdown, five months from now.

    But yes, hardly in the scheme of things.
    For one, if predictions that under a full lockdown, the UK economy would shrink by a third by June is correct. I wonder what state we all would be in by September.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,311
    blazing_saddles said:

    I wonder what state we all would be in by September.

    Judging by my hair now, not very good....

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    ugo.santalucia said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I wonder what state we all would be in by September.

    Judging by my hair now, not very good....



    Me too!
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    When talking about dates for the Tour it's worth noting that the French Open already booked the two weeks starting 20 September
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Tour of Poland expected in August, so that can be a Tour warm up
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    RichN95. said:

    Tour of Poland expected in August, so that can be a Tour warm up

    ah the wierdly named Tour De Pologne. The Poles use the word Polski but for some strange reason they went all French with the name of their tour. It's not a bad race and might get a few bigger names if it's a build up race
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    If we do get a Tour it should be a great field. There's going to be a big battle for places in any races that get to take place.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,054
    gsk82 said:

    Wheelspinner said:



    Enric Mas of Movistar after a turbo session on his balcony today.

    Ouch.

    That's dedication from the Danish champion
    Only if the definition of dedication has been changed to be a lot more closely aligned with stupidity... What a plonker Mr Mas is! :D
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  • blazing_saddles
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    PGA Golf starting back up in June without the galleries.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/52315245
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  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics in 2021 'very unrealistic unless vaccine is found'
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,137
    Can't they hold a Covid2020 immunity Olympics? Along side the usual medical tomfoolery, would be a more serious antibody test.

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